That added touch of detail...

Discussion in 'Star Trek - Original Series' started by Warped9, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Metryq

    Metryq Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I preferred the invisible phaser beam in the original, ungraffitied "Naked Time." My off-topic comment, however, is why didn't Scotty simply cut through the door itself at higher power -- considering the urgency of the situation? In "The Enemy Within" the shuttlecraft is not mentioned, as it had not been introduced yet; "Naked Time" did not mention the intra-ship beaming used in "Day of the Dove."
     
  2. Warped9

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    Given the high pressure atmosphere these people worked in it's easy to see how things could be overlooked.
     
  3. The Old Mixer

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    The door could have been a phaser-resistant bulkhead.
     
  4. Timo

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    Apparently, you have never tried to crack a safe, Metryq. ;) The right way to proceed is not to cut a man-sized hole in the door; this will take forever. The right way is to cut a tiny hole where the lock mechanism is, because this will take very little time, and then use that hole to open the door.

    This regardless of whether the door is harder than the wall or vice versa. It's a simple matter of logistics: cutting open the lock requires you to cut thirty centimeters of bulkhead, while cutting an entrance requires you to cut three meters of bulkhead! The writers got that exactly right.

    In any case, many episodes in TOS and spinoffs testify to the phaser-resisting abilities of standard bulkheads: there are many phaser misses that fail to do harm to the walls.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  5. danellis

    danellis Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I seem to recall them commenting on the intra-ship beaming being "impossible" in DotD and that it was something the alien presence did?

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  6. Timo

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    The alien did a lot of things to technology that our heroes either found odd or then did not, without rhyme or reason, and supposedly because the alien was clouding their thinking. Among the former was the changing of modern weapons to swords and making the bulkheads impenetrable to cutting tools - the heroes considered this very mysterious. Among the latter was the original dropping of the isolation bulkheads and the locking of the ship to her amok course - the heroes simply assumed the Klingons did that somehow, even though such an assumption was irrational and probably wouldn't have occurred to them without the influence of the alien.

    But as for intra-ship beaming, this is the dialogue on the issue, long after the alien influence had turned everybody into idiots:

    Spock says it's possible and has been done; Kirk knows about it, even if only vaguely. It's clearly a desperation move, and in normal circumstances Kirk would probably much rather cut through walls. But the walls don't allow for cutting this time, and Kirk isn't normal himself: the alien presses its victims to take deadly risks, as it loves the resulting excitement and carnage.

    Basically, we could rather easily argue that intra-ship beaming never was a very viable option in "Naked Time", and a dozen other things would have been tried before it, and were.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  7. jpv2000

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    So, we have a safe cracker among us. Good to know. :techman:
     
  8. CrazyMatt

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    Oddly enough, when we see the bridges of the Exeter and Lexington, the background noises are more reminiscent of the Enterprise in the second pilot.
     
  9. CrazyMatt

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