Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by nx1701g, Mar 13, 2009.
^ I want whatever you are on
Oh come on, that's the best way to end the series.
Cameron and Weaver fight, John Connor runs, Weaver wins. John Henry downloads Cameron's chip, including her feelings about John Connor. John Henry, disturbed by what he learns because he wishes to preserve human life, seeks out Connor. Henry comes to the conclusion that, if Judgment Day does not occur, the resulting temporal paradox will destroy the entire universe, but the childish AI doesn't know what to do about it, so he asks for Connor's advice. He also tells Connor that Cameron really did love him, and that the inherited her feelings when he downloaded her memories. The emotionally broken Connor and the equally emotionally broken Henry make love for the first and last time before planning Judgment Day, knowing that killing off most of humanity is the only way to save the rest from non-existence. Connor then goes home and kills both Derek and Sarah, knowing that they would oppose him if they knew what he was planning, and Henry arranges for himself to by sold to the Department of Defense as part of a new nuclear defense program.
^ Is the stuff you're taking prescription or recreational?
I'm high on life.
Believe it or not I've heard an argument very much like this in a Terminator novel before.
There is a Terminator novel in which John Connor has gay sex with Skynet? What is the title?
^ Not that, but there was a story that suggested Connor and Skynet both knew that they couldn't live without the other.
I have seen that one, where Connor accepts that Judgement day happens, and SKYnet accepts that it is to be defeated by him
Which both are dumb things to accept. It means that everybody loses horribly.
The ending I would prefer to the series is to take a leaf out of T2's ending - "no fate but what we make", and preferably no judgment day at all.
If they get a proper ending, I think they're still going to make Judgment Day happen. Friedman had said in an interview a while back that the show wasn't as much about the plot of trying to prevent JD, but about how the characters cope with that, and he kind of hinted at JD being inevitable, which is dumb considering the show's premise.
We have the episode descriptions of the final four.
Spoiler: Today is the Day P2
Jesse’s submarine mission in the future takes a fatal turn that has unforeseen consequences for John, Sarah and Derek in the present. Also, Sarah deals with Cameron, who has become a liability, and John steps up and makes a life-or-death choice.
Spoiler: To the Lighthouse
Fearing for her life, Sarah stashes John in a safe house with the only person she believes she can rely on, Charley Dixon. Cameron and Derek struggle to work together after she reveals a big secret, and Weaver's entire effort is at risk when John Henry is compromised – but by whom?
Spoiler: Adam Raised a Cain
When John attempts to rescue Skynet’s latest target he finds himself closing in on Weaver, but at what cost? Game plans change, causing Sarah and Ellison to reunite. Meanwhile, Weaver learns Ellison’s secrets.
Spoiler: Born to Run
Fate is changed forever on the explosive season finale episode! The Connors come face-to-face with Weaver in a confrontation that shakes John to the core and changes his reality. Nothing will be the same.
Well, those certainly sound interesting!
When are we likely to hear about a decision regarding renewal/cancellation? Early April?
Are HULU numbers being included?
^ Depends on who you ask. One place says yes, one place says no.
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