Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Obiwanshinobi, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. Admiral Buzzkill

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    You can claim anything you like on a BBS, but people are under no compunction to believe unproven assertions which are implausibly self-serving.

    Nor is civility a virtue in response to some of this narrow foolishness.
     
  2. AvBaur

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    Whether she has any "typical" Hispanic features or not, I also thought that the light blond hair and blue eyes Jessica Alba had as Sue Storm looked fake as hell, and I found that pretty distracting as well. Her acting didn't help either, of course.
    I think that's probably all Beaker's trying to say, too.
     
  3. Admiral_Young

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    Since we're still talking about Alba in the FF movies I didn't like her performances because of her acting. She looked the part and at the time the first film was made she was the hot "It" actress and FF was a highly sought superhero film as well (remember Sean Astin lost the bid to Tim Story to direct it...I still wonder how Astin's pitch would have went. Probably more traditional I assume). My pic to play Sue in a FF reboot now would be Alice Eve
     
  4. Venardhi

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    Caucasian is a bullshit made-up pseudoscientific word that has little to nothing to do with anything.

    While 'Hispanic' is slightly better as it is generally used in the US as a term for the peoples that arose out of the Spanish conquests and not so much for the "Of Spain" it originated as. It isn't of much use if you want to be exact, though if you aren't being an ass it is pretty easy to know what is intended with it.

    Jessica Alba does not look Germanic, Nordic, Arabic, Slavic or Anglo, nor particularly Mediterranean. While she clearly has mostly European features, the features she did inherit from her Hispanic/Mestizo father mark her as clearly something other than pure European, or Caucasian if you must, just as someone who is one fourth Japanese or Indian or Ethiopian or Inuit would. Skin tone or eye color is such a minor factor in making someone look one ethnicity or another that it is hardly worth bringing up unless it is notable for its rareness globally such as an entire population with light blonde hair and fair eyes. A Swede will probably still look like a Swede to anyone familiar with Swedes even if you dye his hair and give him contacts, just as certainly as Jessica Alba couldn't be made to look as 'white' as Chris Evans no matter how much they clearly tried.

    In closing, they should have just let her look like herself and explained it away as having different dads or moms or cast a brother who was less white-bread. That whole mess and this whole argument was born out of a desire to please fanboys while never actually thinking through what the problem was in the first place.
     
  5. AvBaur

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    ^ this.


    Now can we talk about Superman again? :)
     
  6. Captain Craig

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    Are we still on the Jessica Alba thing?
     
  7. Admiral_Young

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again...we have a long two years to go with this thread if it is going to continually go off topic with tangent after irrelevant tangent. I'll be surprised if it isn't locked at some point and will have to be restarted.
     
  8. sojourner

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    Given the chance, I'd never get off of Jessica Alba.
     
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    On bottom's better.
     
  10. A beaker full of death

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    I have lots of bad traits. I am no liar. Not ever. Life is too short, and I pledged years ago I would not live my life in any way that I feel a need to lie about it. For the record, I haven't kept track of the people in pop culture since Lee Majors was one of them.

    I really want this conversation to end, but I will not be silent when my character is attacked. So I'm done now, unless someone insults me again.
     
  11. Saga

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    good idea. lets lock this thread and reboot it a month later. ;)
     
  12. indolover

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    So in the Donner-verse, Clark was 30 (when he emerged from his dad telling him about the "various concepts of immortality") and Lois was 21?
     
  13. Nerys Myk

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    Are't you a lawyer? Surely you must know how faulty human memory is and how events can get reordered in the convolutions of the mind when recollecting. Especially when a "good story" is being told. That not lying, its being human.

    For the record I also think Alba was miscast as Sue. My reason: She looked too young to be Sue. Sue should not look younger than Johnny!!!!!! Then again every character, with possible exception of Evans as the Torch was too. Even Michael Chiklis as the Thing was disappointing.

    So, any new Superman news?
     
  14. Broccoli

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    ^ What's Superman?
     
  15. Shazam!

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    Why would they? It's established in the movies that Indy is older than Marion.
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    Jessica Alba's new film. She has the title role. Since she's half Kryptonian it works.
     
  17. Admiral Buzzkill

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    None of the widely used racial or ethnic classifications mean anything scientifically. Race in the sense that it's being discussed here is a social fabrication.

    There was never a need to explain or address it in any way.


    Bullshit. The first time I saw her - without knowing who she was - I said to myself "what is that Daxamite chick doing playing a Kryptonian?"

    Turns out I was right, so it must be pretty obvious.

    P.S. - what's a Daxamite?
     
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    It's strange there's so much debate over whether Jessica Alba is a Kryptonian or a Daxamite when it's clear, simply by looking at her that she's in reality a stone, cold fox. :)
     
  19. Myasishchev

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    Maybe she's from Vathlo Island.
     
  20. Broccoli

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    Doesn't change my point.

    Unless you are suggesting that if it is established in the movie, that makes an age difference okay. What if in this flick, it is established that Lois is older than Clark? Would that stop the whole "Amy Adams is too old" nonsense?