STTMP vignette from the 1970s

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  1. RAMA

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    STTMP featurette from the 1970s

    Has anyone seen this on youtube? It looks to be pre-release because there are scenes from the memory wall in it and they show Persis getting her hair buzzed as well as pre-Trumball Klingon models. It also includes some "inside" Trekkie info so I assume someone with knowledge assisted with the narration.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ABPntxwfPk

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  2. Chrisisall

    Chrisisall Commodore Commodore

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    I saw this back in the Seventies on TV... wow, memories!
     
  3. Galileo7

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    Good to see these. Never saw them back in 1979 when TMP was released.
     
  4. Tiberius

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    Wow, Persis was so beautiful!
     
  5. Therin of Andor

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    Re: STTMP featurette from the 1970s

    Yep, "The Making of..." short was discussed in Susan Sackett's book of the same name. It was also shown at many ST conventions back in the day. We asked Bjo Trimble to borrow it from Gene Roddenberry and bring it to Sydney, Australia, in 1984 - and she did!
     
  6. SeerSGB

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    Yes she was. Felt so sorry for her watching her get her head shaved.
     
  7. Maab

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    Re: STTMP featurette from the 1970s

    I did when it first came out on youtube 2/3 years ago, and it's absolutely a goldmine.

    (I also included few screengrabs in my Memory Wall Pictures Collection page, sorry for the self promotion :))

    Aside the touching moments with Persis, among the other nice things you get to see is that they initially tired to blow up Klingon ships in the traditional way, intead of the "digitalization" which was finally done (for the better I'd say). Also there is a glimpse of the original matte painting for Vulcan, where it's daylight and not night as in the theatrical version (in contrast with Spock covering his eyes from the sun).

    The real question is: does anyone know where to find a better version? This is probably a 35mm film put on a VHS and acquired in low resolution. It sure can be better than this.

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  8. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    I just wanted to give her a big hug.
     
  9. King Daniel Beyond

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    What's up with that TAS-style planet Vulcan matte painting? How come we didn't see it in the final movie?

    Poor Persis crying as she gets her head shaved:(

    Very cool to see this, a great find!
     
  10. bbailey861

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    What a magnificent trek down memory lane. Thank you.
     
  11. CorporalCaptain

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    I hadn't seen this before. Great featurette.
     
  12. trevanian

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    That's the Matt Yuricich Vulcan, the one that SHOULD have been in the film. (STARLOG published a shot of him working on this with the approved smaller concept version of the shot next to him.)

    According to a knowledgeable TMP guy and ex-poster here, the shot was pulled from EEG (Trumbull's group) and farmed out to be done elsewhere (Anderson? whoever it was they went uncredited), hence the total bullshit version in the release print.

    I think this is another one you can blame on Katzenberg since he was responsible for looking after the post side on TMP, and probably deserves more blame than anybody for letting things get so out of hand before they were able to get Trumbull and Dykstra in to save their bacon.
     
  13. RAMA

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    Re: STTMP featurette from the 1970s

    Yup, forgot to mention the matte painting in daytime which made it to the DE years later. The also made a good choice not using the explosions...the digitizing works so much better in the movie!!

    BTW I saw the featurette days ago then lost it on youtube, it's not an EASY find to make.
     
  14. Maab

    Maab Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Here it is.

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    And here is a composite (maybe a test):

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    This is why it is safely stored on my Trek Hard Disk since I first saw it! :)

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  15. King Daniel Beyond

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    Thanks for the info, and thanks to Maab for the pics!:)
     
  16. trevanian

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    Unlike the theatrical AND the DE, that image lives up to the "hot as Vulcan" line for me.

    I kind of wonder if the really awful side profile view of the saucer during the wingwalk at the end of the movie was painted by the same bozo who wrecked this thing, because it is hard for me to believe Yuricich could have done that one either.
     
  17. Maab

    Maab Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    OK, I like pictures galleries...

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    Well, they are not that bad...

    Maab
     
  18. trevanian

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    That last one you posted looked incredibly good in the cinema, but once dvd and BR came along, the transfers made it look bad (a problem with a lot of VFX -- they are printed one way for theatrical, hence the 'garbage matte' boxes all over the place in 2010, for example.) The one that was terrible in the theater and just as bad now is the shot after that one, where you see the side profile of the dish (which looks to be smaller than a basketball court all of a sudden) that you can practically see brushstrokes and the lettering looks bad.
     
  19. Maab

    Maab Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Ah, this one:
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    Well, there IS a size issue:

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  20. Coloratura

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    That was neat! I could watch hours of that stuff. I like going behind the scenes, especially when it comes to movies that are ingrained in my psyche after so many years. TMP came out a little over three months before I was born, but by the time Star Trek IV rolled around, I was hooked for life. So seeing all of these things going on while I was too young to really notice, that kind of helps me recapture a bit of that childhood in a different way. Thanks for posting that video, RAMA.
     

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