STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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  1. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    The ability to download a good copy online has made piracy more widespread.
     
  2. Admiral Buzzkill

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    No, it wasn't. It was a TV action/drama series, and the science was rarely credible.

    No, he didn't. "Wagon Train To The Stars." You ever watch Wagon Train, BTW?

    Frequently weapons, and a fist fight or two just about every week.

    STID is a lot more like the original Star Trek television series than any previous Star Trek movie.
     
  3. CorporalCaptain

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    Well, the ability to watch movies on a PC has made watching movies on PC's more widespread, period. Your statement is about as vacuous as that.
     
  4. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Yes, it's made watching movies on PC more widespread in general, but it's increased the level of piracy since a lot of people who wouldn't buy an illegal physical copy of a music CD or a movie on DVD will download an illegal copy given the ease and anonymity (or at least perceived anonymity). There's nothing vacuous about pointing that out.
     
  5. Phily B

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    Thurs numbers

    F&F6 $5M ($135M) #2 HANGOVER 3 $2.7M ($72M) #3 STAR TREK: ID $2.5M ($164M)

    if it can pull off 19-20m weekend it'll be close to 190m.

    it also appears to be considerably outperforming after earth in south korea and will easy double the 09 take.
     
  6. BillJ

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    I'd just like to know what show these folks were watching? :lol:
     
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    I recall being discouraged that the first time I knew about "Bit Torrenting", about five years ago, was overhearing a couple of primary school aged kids talking quite matter-of-factly about some yet-to-be-released films they had already seen.
     
  8. CorporalCaptain

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    I don't think it's been demonstrated that the proportion of piracy to legitimate activity is in any way increasing.
     
  9. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    The percentage of the population that downloads illegal content would be a lot higher than the percentage of the population that bought pirated VHS tapes back in the day. I think that's common sense and is indicated by the increased attention to piracy from the entertainment industry in the online era. It's the same as with the proliferation of porn. Plenty of people watched porn prior to the internet age, but once people could download porn in their homes the number of people watching and the amount they watched increased significantly. When something, such as obtaining pirated material and/or pornographic material, becomes very easy and has the cloak of perceived anonymity it entices people who might otherwise have qualms about it to go ahead and obtain it.
     
  10. CorporalCaptain

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    And what of the percentage of people who own or rent DVD's, Blu-rays, use Netflix, ITunes, etc., versus the percentage who rented or owned VHS tapes back in the day? If it's "common sense" that illegal downloading is up, then it's "common sense" that those numbers of legal behavior are up, too.

    If you're going to grind your ax about one aspect, keep it in proportion to everything else.

    Anyway, the main point is that "plugging the holes" and "reigning in" illegal behavior wouldn't necessarily improve STID's numbers significantly, if at all or more than only marginally.
     
  11. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Yes, there are more revenue streams from home entertainment these days, and pirating costs revenue across all of those streams. Not every instance of pirating is a lost sale, but a certain percentage are. It's hard to say how many. Netflix may be decreasing pirate activity online, although I've read differing accounts on that.
     
  12. CorporalCaptain

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    With that, I agree.
     
  13. Phily B

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    china looking at a $46M total

    ST09 did $8M total last time
     
  14. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    $60-65 million from China and South Korea combined would certainly be a big help in getting the worldwide total into the $450 million range, albeit that the studio gets a low percentage from China.
     
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    THIS!!! A dead on rebuttal and depiction of what Star Trek really was. I for one know that I had trouble getting into DS9 because it was too different from TNG (although I did take more interest when the introduced the war with the Dominion). This ethereal image of Star Trek that some people like to wax poetic about is nothing more than revisionist history.
     
  16. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Based on the Thursday number I think we're looking at a $17.5-18.5 million weekend, with an outside shot at $19-20 million if the Friday increase is really good.
     
  17. Flake

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    I think 18m for this weekend now because Thursday is a little lower than I thought.

    Excellent news about China. South Korea seems to be double ST09 and if Japan is also double then that will be $70m from those three countries alone. ST09 got $20m from those 3.
     
  18. ralph

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    there are still two big markets: Japan and Brazil. I believe them. :techman:
     
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    46 :eek: wow, got a source on that? sounds like great news.
     
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    That's because they recut the film with Psy playing Khan.