STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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  1. I am not Spock

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    True. Everything Gene said should be taken with a grain of salt. There was a time when he even disavowed TOS as canon! When he was promoting TNG.

    He didn't consider TFF or TUC canon either. And didn't like the military direction of the series after TMP.

    If the rule is 'if it's onscreen, it is canon', then TAS is canon. I have a copy on DVD right here. It was as onscreen as any of the other shows or movies.
     
  2. lurok

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    I'll be happy for the day when Roddenberry's name is never mentioned again (kudos for kickstarting notwithstanding).
     
  3. teacake

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    You're gonna die in fire now.
     
  4. Phily B

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    Tuesday numbers

    6.9m
     
  5. lurok

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    Bring on the Fire Caves :p
     
  6. Roald

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    Seems like a pretty decent number to me.
     
  7. ralph

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    Paramount is releasing several previews in IMAX theaters in Brazil (10) and the demand is great. The movie will premiere on June 14th in 2D. I think that STID box office in Brazil will have a greater increase than ST 2009.

    I´m very happy and surprise. Finally, we are helping you. :techman:
     
  8. LOKAI of CHERON

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    Seemingly, international box office is going to save the day - giving STID a more than respectable haul.
     
  9. Dream

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    To compare, ST09 made $6.5M during its first Tuesday.
     
  10. ralph

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    Interesting. Some movies had this behavior. Box office regular or weak in the USA and very well internationally. Now STID is getting very popular outside USA. This is good because we are ensuring an respectable international box office for the next movie. Paramount needs to know the reason the film did not take off in your home. I'm not saying that is bad in the USA but expected to double.
     
  11. LOKAI of CHERON

    LOKAI of CHERON Commodore Commodore

    Agreed, Paramount needs to do some serious research and discern any possible factors involved in STID's good, but relatively disappointing performance in NA. Of course, it may be Trek has a natural "ceiling" for reasons many have discussed in this thread.
     
  12. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    STiD should track closely with Star Trek's daily numbers through its first two weeks. It's the third weekend where it has an uphill battle. Star Trek had a great hold on its second weekend, a regular weekend, and then another great hold on its third weekend, the inflated Memorial Day weekend. STiD's second weekend is Memorial Day weekend. Films entering their third weekend the week after Memorial Day typically have a weekend drop in the high 40s to the mid-50s. Getting a good hold on that weekend is going to be very tough. That's the danger point where STiD could fall behind.
     
  13. Admiral Buzzkill

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    IOW, Into Darkness continues to run somewhat ahead of Star Trek 2009 at the box office and people are wandering around with long faces.
     
  14. Squiggy

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    He was also a giant cokehead who had a good idea in the 60s. The rest? Not as good.
     
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

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    IOW, not that unusual.
     
  16. Flake

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    Today (Wednesday) will be Star Treks last day at number 1 :(

    Thursday we will be No.2
    Friday will see us go to No.3 or maybe No.4

    6.9m Tues very nice :) Maybe actual will go up to 7!
     
  17. ralph

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    You are right. I think the premieres, red carpets, good reception of European, Asian, here in Brazil, Russia, projections of the critics, all of these made ​​me believe that STID would reach 100 M in USA easy. But we must be realistic. Star Trek has its limitations scifi genre and, after all, is not that bad. Maybe, 450 - 500 M Worldwide grossing would be very encouraging.
     
  18. Therin of Andor

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    The "What is canon?" memo of 1989 coincided with several pertinent events. Filmation was being sold off. The output of their TV series backlog was in a state of ownership flux; it was not definite that TAS rights would revert to Paramount/Viacom since it was originally a joint production of Roddenberry's Norway Corp., NBC Children's TV and Filmation. TAS had not been on air for some time so it was not accessible to TNG's writers or viewers. David Gerrold and DC Fontana were suing Roddenberry over co-creatorship of TNG; it was politically sensible for the lawyers to dis-count their contribution to other material. Larry Niven's "Known Space" universe (and kzinti) was about to be licensed as a RPG.

    When Richard Arnold defined "canon" from 1989 on, he would specify "live action". Until then, publications such as Lincoln Enterprises' TAS newsletters showed that GR was formerly a big supporter of TAS.
     
  19. billcosby

    billcosby Commodore Commodore

    Now we're talking turkey.
    Can someone transmute this post into a stick that we can beat the bean counters over the head at CBS/Paramount with? :mallory:
     
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  20. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    An exchange between Box Office Guru and a follower on Twitter: