STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by RAMA, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. Phily B

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    There is no getting away its an underwhelming and disappointing take. But it's not a flop, there was serious fears though after the numbers on Thurs/Friday it would be.
     
  2. Jax

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    Which would be $380 million (ST09 made $385 in BO alone). STID is going to make more than that by a decent margin based off the start from the domestic and overseas take.
     
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    In addition to the $190m production budget it is possible Paramount spent $100m on worldwide prints and advertising.
     
  4. indranee

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    THIS. :)
     
  5. BillJ

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    It is disappointing. Even if the film gets to Star Trek 2009 money, it will have sold fewer tickets due to higher ticket prices.
     
  6. RAMA

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    Where did I say "hit film"?? I said it is not a flop if it covers cost. Once you do that you go into different degrees of success based on profit. Considering it came close to covering it's cost in a very short time, the degree of success with it's likely profit seems likely to reach "hit" status.

    On the topic of DVD sales I saw mentioned earlier..ST09 had sales of $101 million in DVD. Bluray is unknown, but likely $30-40 million. FX got the rights for the movie for $30 million. There are lots of ways to make money.
     
  7. Phily B

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    It's not a flop, it's not a smash hit. It'll hopefully just be ok and a disappointment.
     
  8. RAMA

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    Not likely, if ticket prices are roughly the same overseas, (and I don't know what they are on avg) and the movie makes $400-500 million, it is almost certain to sell more than 34 million tickets.
     
  9. Atariboy

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    Trek's opening is very similar to Oz's, which wound up settling around $230 mil domestically (with less competition).

    It's going to be close on making back it's budget domestically, and it's foreign numbers are tracking at about half that amount.

    Not a major hit by any stretch and this will have implications on Trek III's budget. We're looking at a slash to about $120-130 million. Probably a good thing, maybe they'll focus more on story. Kind of tired of the Enterprise having to face the villian's Super Badass Ship at the end every time.
     
  10. MacLeod

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    Well one thing that might help the UK Box Office for F&F6 is it being partly set in the UK given the trailers.

    As for me it's not the type of film I would pay to see at the cinema, I might catch it on TV.
     
  11. Phily B

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    The problem is that Hangover and Fast 6 both come out next week, this is very unusual and Trek might get killed by it.
     
  12. indranee

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    Not only that. They missed a shirtless Cumberbatch that should have been a fucking GIVEN.
     
  13. Jax

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    From Box Office.com

    FAILURE I SAY FAILURE :scream:
     
  14. BillJ

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  15. Phily B

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    It's still ranked as a disappointment though.

    It's not a flop or failure yet, nor is it likely to be. Just a disappointment. Paramount can go either way on the sequels budget, personally I do agree that there wasn't enough emphasis on the Enterprise/Kirk/Spock etc etc in the marketing, it tried to appeal to an audience that just isn't interested in Trek atm.
     
  16. indranee

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    THIS pretty much. You want those kinds of numbers? You've gotta make that compromise. And I don't want to compromise.

    Frankly, even if I'm a tad disappointed with the numbers, I'm okay with what I got.
     
  17. RAMA

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    Gatsby was supposed to be competition. STID made $6 million less over 5 days, than Gatsby's 2 week total.


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  18. Phily B

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    Gatsby was never meant to be serious competition, but it seems to have unexpectedly cut into part of Trek's target audience.
     
  19. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Yeah, Gatsby has performed better than expected. Trek's male/female ratio might have been a bit better and its gross a bit higher were it not for that.
     
  20. Ancient Mariner

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    For a bit of perspective:

    Casino Royale: $167M (2006)
    Quantum of Solace: $168M (2008)

    And BOM lists the production budget for QoS as $200M against a $190M production budget for STID.