STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by RAMA, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. LOKAI of CHERON

    LOKAI of CHERON Commodore Commodore

    I was really hoping for $470m, looking like that's unlikely now.
     
  2. edshrinker

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    STID 448,700 Total worldwide so far.

    TOTAL for Star Trek 2009: Worldwide: $385,680,446

    I would think this is a clear success, no?

    There will be another boost this weekend. If it is 100 freaking million over the last movie's gross... how can "disappointment" even be uttered?
     
  3. M'Sharak

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    Have fun! :techman:
     
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    Well, you see...

    If you only count only the money made by the 2d showings, adjust for inflation, and divide by 7 for no apparent reason, how can you possibly say it's a success?!
     
  5. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    It's a solid success, but it's not going to make $100 million more than the last one, more like $75 million more by the end of its run. That's decent and certainly enough for another sequel to be made, but not quite the box office jump the studio would have wanted given the budget increase, a much bigger international push, and the 3D release. The international release was a success, posting a substantial gain over the last film, while the domestic gross was fine, but the drop there meant that the worldwide gross isn't quite as triumphant as it might have been.
     
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    I think for some, no matter how much it pulls in, it will not be a success. In face of the massive flops that have been occurring in the last few weeks, the argument is ridiculous. It has been a success and I am glad to see it.
     
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    Absolutely. Pacific Rim is a bigger flop than Into Darkness, and don't get me started on R.I.P.D. :D
     
  9. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    This summer's sequels have almost all been hits to one degree or another, while the efforts to launch new big budget franchises have mostly failed, some spectacularly so.
     
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    And the same has been said about TAS, TMP, ST IV and TNG in their day. And the original run of TOS.
     
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    Good God, don't make me spout diet mountain dew through my nose like that again!! :) :)
     
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    just wondering what the numbers will be after it opens in Japan on August 23. Does anybody know after Japan if there are anymore openings left?
     
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    A notable exception to this is STID's fellow Paramount release World War Z, which passed Trek in worldwide gross a few days ago. Pretty impressive for a troubled production that many box office analysts were expecting to fail.
     
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    Not going by this. On 15 August are openings in Argentina and Chile, then Japan on 23 August, and that's everybody.
     
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    Just got back, wonderful movie! :klingon: my girlfriend was amazingly exited, she WANTS to see it again. :bolian: im ready to organize a group and watch it again on friday. The 3d was actually good :techman:

    I dont get why it wasnt a larger hit in the US, "far better than all the other summer flicks and better than the TDKR" and this came from my girlfried who loved FF6 and is not a trekkie yet :drool:
     
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    And that's a damn shame. I like new stuff. :(
     
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    Great that you finally got to see it and that you enjoyed it.

    Is the interest big for Star Trek in Venezuela?
     
  18. KGator

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    Mentally? . . . that's debatable.
    The current Hollywood Model has been to produce fewer movies but more "tent-pole" productions to lift a studio's bottom line (like a tent pole). I think this year we are seeing an oversaturation with that models where 3-6 of those big productions are likely to lose big money.

    These days sequels, prequels, remakes, existing properties, etc, are seen as safe or safer bets than unknown entities. A year where a lot of these major tent-poles fail could force a change in Hollywood's approach to movies. But they will only evolve if forced to at gunpoint (aka, colossal losses of cash).

    I expect there to be some superhero crashes coming as there is just too much out there planned. And 2015 is so loaded with huge budget productions its setting up to be a turning point year. The domestic market just cannot infinitely expand to support all these productions. Some will lose money and some will flop big time.

    Only then will we get to see more "new stuff".
     
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    One thing I did think about before was that I saw this film about three times, but I saw Trek 09 double that. It feels like Trek 09 was more of an event and was in cinemas longer, even though I thought ID was a better movie.
     
  20. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    That's why huge international grosses are the aim for tentpole films these days. They may eventually cut back a bit on the number of tentpole releases a bit, though, if there's too much cannabilization. Next year looks to have fewer mega-budget films than this year, although, as you say, 2015 is shaping up to be insanely competitive.

    Most of the flops will probably continue to be the attempts to launch new franchises, while sequels continue to be a (mostly) safe bet. I expect tentpole releases to become even more heavily focused on extending existing franchises through sequels, prequels and spin-offs.