STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by RAMA, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. Mr. Adventure

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    No one knows for sure but even assuming the general public has never heard of Khan even peripherally it could still potentially have stoked the hype machine from those who do. I do think that if you can excite the media it can spill over to the unwashed masses. I don't know that this would've happened but I think it's at least possible.
     
  2. Flake

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    I wonder if Japan can potentially push it to $460m WW ?
     
  3. Borgminister

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    Love the legs... just wish the first weekend would've packed more punch.

    Japan netted 5-6 million for 2009 I think, so 460 is within reach I would say.
     
  4. Jax

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    When is the Japan opening? and is that the last market?
     
  5. M'Sharak

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    Not much of it is very important to following the movie.
     
  7. mswood

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    Here is the markets just opened this last week and those that have yet to open, and how much Trek 09 made.

    Spain ($3,995,000) just opened this week, so we should get another million and a half from this market.

    Greece ($537,000) opens this week.

    Venezuela ($569,000) the week after

    Argentina ($405,000) 08/22/13 and

    finally Japan ($5,822,000) 08/23/13

    So far almost every market as earned more money. So using that as a template of just doing roughly the same STiD should earn overseas another 9 million dollars. It could easily based on other markets in similar areas do as much as 20 million more (I doubt it seriously though, as being late in the game, but it could happen).

    It's looking like STiD wont earn 230 in the US. It looks to be reaching a ceiling of $229 (but if Paramount wants to milk it to an even number, some times studios will, but it not next to a big number like 250, or 300 for example).

    Oversas it looks to be earning a minimum of 231.5.

    That means at worst to expect 460.5 million world wide, to a best possible say of 471 million. I would now guess about 463 million.

    So basically paramount spent 40 million more to generate 76 or so million. Since studios typically earn around 50% of ticket sales (more in the US, less overseas), Trek STiD will end up very likely earning Paramount and its backers roughly the same amount of profit as Trek 2009.
     
  8. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    The summer films that have gone over $400 million worldwide so far:

    Iron Man 3 - $1.211 billion
    Fast & Furious 6 - $704.2 million
    Man of Steel - $619.2 million
    Monsters University - $474.2 million
    Despicable Me 2 - $472.4 million
    Star Trek Into Darkness - $446.9 million
    World War Z - $423.1 million
     
  9. Belz...

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    Under your own parameters, I doubt it.

    I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
     
  10. sonak

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    yep.


    so?:confused:

    I wasn't suggesting a 25 million dollar budget for STXIII, just saying that even if the budget's drastically slashed it shouldn't be an excuse for poor movie quality.
     
  11. Cinema Geekly

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    I think the point was.... in 1991 that was actually a big budget.

    Only one film in 91 had a budget that we could consider huge and that was Terminator 2 which was somewhere between 90-100m, everything else never got as high as 40m or so. So while it was never a super blockbuster budget Trek's budgets have been on par with most other big movies at least in that era.
     
  12. sonak

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    $25 million was not a huge budget in '91. I think TWOK's budget was somewhere in the range of $12-15 million, also not a huge budget for '82.

    Other than TMP, most of the TOS and TNG movies had relatively middle-of-the-road budgets for their times.
     
  13. Opus

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    What I am saying is the expectation of the general audience of a scifi/fantasy movie's FX has changed drastically, and doing a Trek movie on the cheap isn't going to fly like it did 20-30 years ago. Heck, it didn't fly 10 years ago when BermanTrek released NEM around the same time as LotR.

    It will come off as poor movie quality.
     
  14. Therin of Andor

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    Not enough to stop me zoning out. (Not that I've seen "Fast and Furious 6", nor the previous five. The trailers were enough for me to decide it wasn't my kind of film genre. That and having once been dragged to "xXx".)
     
  15. Therin of Andor

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    The international media was extremely excited. Reflected by our high box office. Perhaps the US media was less excited because they would have faced "Spoiler!" backlash if they had have talked about STiD too much. It was a premiering film making news Down Under but the US media chose not to talk about it too much on home soil? Perhaps?

    Was US media really less excited by STiD than other films of its ilk?
     
  16. sonak

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    actually, looking at recent sci-fi movie budgets maybe you're right:eek:


    kind of sad though, if true.
     
  17. I am not Spock

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    In an era of spiralling 150-200 million dollar budgets, an el cheapo 60 million movie like Nemesis really is NOT gonna cut it
     
  18. Mr. Adventure

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    I think the interviews with Cumberbatch were rather crappy because of it and probably would've been more interesting if he could've actually discussed the character. Pure idle speculation though, I don't know if it would've made a difference I just think it might have.
     
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    Star Trek ID was rescheduled to open on the 26th wide down here!