STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by RAMA, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    I'm just noticing something on Paramount's GLOBAL SITES & RELEASE DATES page. With the exception of Brazil, all the Latin American countries listed link to the same page: the one for Mexico (also to the 'StarTrek.MX' Facebook page) and half of those listed opened in May. Could they have spent the whole promo budget on those early openings?
     
  2. Belz...

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    No you didn't. I've already explained it to you twice. You ignored the movies that killed the two franchises and led to reboots several years later, and only became successful once Marvel launched their own brand with Blade and X-men. Not my problem if you don't understand what I'm saying.
     
  3. sonak

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    right, which is what I wrote. You focused on two movies out of eight, both of which came at the tail end of two hugely successfull franchises, just to cherry pick data to support your argument while dismissing all of the other successfull movies. I understand exactly what you're arguing, it's just silly. "Well if you dismiss the hugely successfull parts of the series, you'll see that they weren't actually very successfull at all.":lol:


    And I really don't think that the success of the Nolan films was a result of "Blade," "X-Men," or "Spider-Man."
     
  4. Therin of Andor

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    "Batman" did that in 1989.
     
  5. sonak

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    shhhh, we have to pretend that the Superman and Batman series didn't happen.;)
     
  6. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    As did Superman in 1978. I think, though, that X-Men and Spider-Man were made in styles that were easier to apply as templates to other comic book movies than Donner's Superman or Burton's Batman, although the first half of Donner's Superman was influential on both Singer and Raimi in putting their respective Marvel superhero films together.
     
  7. Mr. Adventure

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    And so did Superman in 1978. However, most modern comic book movies today aren't like Superman nor Batman, especially the later entries. It's my opinion but I think the current wave of movies has been so successful because they put an emphasis on a solid Hollywood presentation, overcoming stigma over the comic book source. I think it's why JJ Trek has been successful as well.

    EDIT: Was writing this as Out Of My Vulcan Mind posted but looks like we were thinking on the same wavelength (scarily so on the first line).
     
  8. section9

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    So, does the movie finally make 450 before it's pulled and sent to Blu-Ray or not? I don't quite think it's got the legs, but stranger things have happened. There's that burning hot Pakistani market to consider.
     
  9. section9

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    BTW, IF Paramount HAD cast a Bollywood leader as Khan we'd be tearing up the Subcontinent right now.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Cumberbatch, but there's an opportunity cost in the Asian market that was missed.
     
  10. LOKAI of CHERON

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    I'm feeling it may just scrape the $450.
     
  11. Mr. Adventure

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    Now you have me imagining the big dance number.
     
  12. Sindatur

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    Into Darkness is hauling in about 60% more International then ST'09 did. ST'09 did $11,330,564.00 in the 5 Countries STID has left to open in, and STID is currently short about $19M to cross $450M.

    If STID takes 60% more in those remaining markets, that puts it about $871,000.00 short, which it should be able to still achieve Domestically and anywhere International it is still playing. So, it might be pretty close, but, it's definitely do-able
     
  13. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    With the foreign markets still to come it should definitely go over $450 million. I think it'll end up with somewhere in the region of $470 million.
     
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    Right. Thanks for giving Damon Lindelof all sorts of ideas! Somehow I think we'll get "The French Mistake" from Blazing Saddles.
     
  15. M'Sharak

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  16. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Wednesday number: $413,983 for $218,063,851.
     
  17. Belz...

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    Well of course I did. My point is that superhero movies had taken a nosedive when Blade and X-Men came out, and I used the latest ones as examples. Why would I go back to 1978 when this wasn't the case ? I don't see what your point is.

    It's not cherry picking to say that the last entries of those two franchises were crappy, poorly received, and financially dissapointing. I don't know why you'd want to go back years prior, point to successful entries in the series, and say it somehow invalidates my point about the year 2000 when X-men came out. See ? The superhero genre was in bad shape in 2000. Not in 1989.

    Well only partially. The success of the earlier movies paved the way for more entries of the genre. The rest is because people liked the first of Nolan's trilogy, and wanted to see the other ones.
     
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  19. Therin of Andor

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    Sure, but the merchandising was very tame in comparison. When tie-in toys came out, the 12.5" Mego Superman and Jor-El action figures only vaguely resembled the actors, and the Zod and Luthor figures wore costumes from the comic books. The tie-in novel had a captioned photo section based on the movie, but it was an original story, "Superman: Last Son of Krypton" by Eliot S! Maggin, not an actual novelization. The cinema tie-in stores, located in the foyers of theatres premiering "Superman: The Movie", sold "Superman" lapel pins, program books and plastic glow-in-the-dark Kryptonite, but very little else in the way of merchandising.
     
  20. Noname Given

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    To be fair though, the 1989 'Batman' did big business based on the fact it was Jack Nicholson as The Joker (movie goers - myself among them at the time loved it when Jack played a psycho character and you can't get more psychotic then the Joker.) To be honest, while I felt it was one of the better comic book films at the time (although to be fair, the bar for comic book films wasn't high as there hadn't be a good one previously except the first two Superman films (hated 3 and 4 which had released by the time 'Batman' hit.)