STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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  1. ralph

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    Unfortunately, protests in Brazil are not helping STID box office. Many people liked the movie, but now, it is difficult to go to a theater in a calm and peaceful atmosphere.
     
  2. khan2

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    Yeah, guess that's why Hangover III is making more in its 3rd week of Brazilian release than STID is in its first week even though STID is showing in 10% more theaters than Hangover III. If only things were more calm and peaceful. :rolleyes:
     
  3. BillJ

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    Wow. :rolleyes:

    Hope you're staying safe, ralph and things settle down quickly.
     
  4. Sindatur

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    And it hasn't even opened yet in Spain, Greece, Venezuela, Argentina or Japan. That oughta be good for at least a few more dollars
     
  5. Locutus of Bored

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    That was a needlessly rude reaction to such a harmless and mundane comment. Cool it with the attitude.
     
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    My apologies, I have been following news coverage of the protests and hope that they will lead to meaningful reforms for the people of Brazil.
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  7. ralph

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    Cities are calm. The protests are against government agencies. The protest was against corruption and the recent scandals Involving allegations of embezzling public money with FIFA World Cup in Brazil. Previous governments used the policy of bread and circuses to make people feel happy, without protest. But today there is a different thought. Soccer is the national passion but it's not the most important thing to brazillian.
     
  8. Cyrus

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  10. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Thursday number: $522,864 for $213,610,916 so far. Box office was hampered on Thursday across the board because of the big NBA game. Friday increases should be bigger than usual as things return to normal.
     
  11. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Do you have the sense that I do, that doing the "adjusted numbers" thing in comparing box office is basically bullshit? By that I mean it misleads into the notion that we're then comparing apples to apples, but that's premised on the ridiculous proposition that all other variables are somehow equal or can be made equal.

    IMAO there's actually no reasonable way to compare either the economic decisions or the taste of someone in, say, 1939 deciding to spend some change on The Wizard Of Oz to someone deciding in 2009 to drop twenty dollars to see Avatar in IMAX. It's always apples-to-oranges.
     
  12. Keeper

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    Oh, my money is part of those numbers!

    I snuck off :evil: yesterday and caught an afternoon screening. About 25 people total in a 1:40pm showing.
     
  13. Cyrus

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    Yeah, I agree completely. There is no way to make apple-to-apple comparisons of movies from different eras, way too many variables. The best we can do is to say that both STID & TWOK were hit movies in the years they were released (e.g. in the top 10 movies of the year), but any direct comparison of boxoffice numbers (adjusted or not) is not that meaningful.

    Would Gone With the Wind make $1.6 billion domestically if it was released today? It wouldn't even come close. But it made a lot of money when it was released, which was at a time that not only it didn't have too much movie competition or any home video competition, it didn't have any TV competition at all. Also as you say the taste of the moviegoers from different generations will not be the same.
     
  14. thumbtack

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    The studios don't like it all. Who can blame them? If you look at adjusted grosses, you would think no one has made a legitimate blockbuster since Gone With The Wind.
     
  15. Belz...

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    They are all BS, actually. Non-adjusted, adjusted, attendance. But it's hard for people today to get a grasp of how much money a movie made in 1937 if they don't have a solid appreciation of how much dollars were worth back then, hence the adjustment.

    I think it's at least an interesting approximation. Personally I'd prefer attendance (# of tickets sold).
     
  16. Opus

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    # of tickets doesn't work. The price of a movie in the 30s through the 50s was a nickel.
     
  17. Belz...

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    So ? A nickel was much more expensive than now.

    I want to know how many times it was seen in theatres. I realise it's not a perfect metric, and adjusted gross is the next best thing... and is itself not perfect. As Buzzkill and I both said, there's no way to really compare them, in addition to the fact that audiences and culture were different back then.
     
  18. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, but my opinion is that nothing really works so we ought to give that shit up.
     
  19. CorporalCaptain

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    Well, if we give that shit up, and if any measure we have to apply is apples-to-oranges, then we can't use any measure to defend a claim about what's the most successful film in history. Certainly, biggest nominal gross to date doesn't mean most successful in history. ;)

    I don't think we should give anything up. That's just throwing in the towel. Certainly, the more measures one considers, the more complete a picture one has, although some measures obviously don't bring very much to the table. However, whether considering them is bullshit really depends on what conclusion one is trying to infer, or what claim one is trying to make.

    That's actually even less meaningful than it sounds, because you'd have to imagine a world in which it had never existed at all until now, which is pretty much impossible.

    However, if the domestic box office of GWTW were hypothetically invested in inflation-indexed bonds and managed appropriately, then one could have something like $1.6 billion dollars today. That actually sounds well on the way to being a meaningful statement, to me, pending actual numbers.
     
  20. Beyerstein

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    How would number of tickets sold not be the best way to measure the popularity of movies during their theatrical runs?