STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by RAMA, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    I'm sure everyone's figured that out, thanks, and that detailed reviews and spoilers for that movie should probably go there. Meanwhile, since Man of Steel's opening and box-office performance do have some relevance to the subject of discussion in this thread, I don't think that there's any real problem with people commenting briefly here or mentioning that they've seen it.
     
  2. mswood

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    Actually right now today the total revenue generated is easily over 400 million.

    China as of Friday was already at 48 million, will be at 50 certainly by Sunday will make most likely 55 million US before its run is killed by the short run system for overseas productions (a few films that make financial deals with China managed longer runs, Iron Man III is a big example). Heck if China would run films from the US like the US does, Trek would probably clear 80 million or more from CHina.

    From last week's reported total of roughly 375 million. China has pushed it to 387. US showing through Friday have pushed it to 392, France has given it by Friday enough to hit 395. And its still doing solid in Korea. Its should get another million or so from GB, its playing new in two other countries were I have yet to hear an attendance or dollar amount. And of course still showing in over 20 countries. Trust me by the end of business Friday the film should have crossed 400 million.

    With an increase of 40 million (depending on what budget source you read) from 2009, and with film financing based on double what a film generates. STID needs to generate 80 million to cover the increase of Production costs.

    It probably won't due that. It's looking more and more likely for a 460 million final gross. Which is roughly a 75 million increase from 2009. Almost enough to cover that increase when you consider the money studios actual earn from release.

    Now as to Paramount, without knowing how much investment was from others, and where those others earn money,, will have no way of judging how Paramount itself is doing. All we can say is that overall costs will be covered and a profit should be made. But depending on where each partner (and what type of percentage those partners get) will determine what each party does. Say Paramount has a huge percentage from us distribution but almost nothing from overseas? That would mean Paramount would probably due worse this time, while the party who covers overseas would do vastly better. Thats just an example and has no factual bearing.

    As for its budget. While that budget is a huge number, its still considerably under what Huge tent pole films normally costs.
     
  3. Borgminister

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    Still amazed Star Trek is back as a viable movie franchise.
     
  4. bbailey861

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    I'm not.
     
  5. BillJ

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    Just got back from Man of Steel. Great flick.
     
  6. Tommunist

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    Saw both Trek and Man of Steel in Imax 3D. Trek wins the 3D conversion! But I like both films. In a way, Man of Steel was more "science-fiction-y" than Into Darkness! But I can see that it may not be everybody's cup of tea. Like Star Trek, Superman evokes strong feelings of what it should be.

    Sure, Supes will out-do Trek at the box office at the end of their runs, but both left me wanting to see what their respective film makers will do next.

    One closing thought: people thought Trek had product placement?! Tame, compared to Supes. It's a fact of big movies now, but if the Enterprise is dispatched to Planet IHOP or Deep Space Sears, I'll be a little miffed...
     
  7. Rarewolf

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    I personally feel like I don't need any more Superman, in the same way I don't need any more Star Trek.
     
  8. RAMA

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    this is probably true, the likely estimated number I mentioned a few days ago was $413 million but we are talking about official, known numbers.
     
  9. Belz...

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    That's unfortunate. Do you feel like you need any more Star Wars ? ;)
     
  10. MarsWeeps

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    Personally, I would like to see them kill the movie franchise if it meant a return to television.

    Star Trek was meant for TV, not for a movie every 4 years which repeats the same formula over and over.

    Yes, the last few TV series dug their own holes. They had too many series in too short a time with writers running out of ideas and flooded with useless technobabble. TV Trek became too diluted.

    I'd like to see it done right. Better writers, maybe change them out every so often so things don't get stale. Gotta have great stories.
     
  11. Rarewolf

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    Since I never thought I never thought I'd get anymore live action Star Wars movies, hell yeah.

    It's not like they are just rebooting :D

    And that's the thing really, I only need one Kirk.
     
  12. King Daniel Beyond

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    ^Your comment made Mirror Kirk, Evil Transporter Duplicate Kirk and Janice Lester Kirk cry.
     
  13. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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  14. Flake

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    STID Brazil, $3.1m vs $0.7m ST09 (Opening weekend)
    STID France, $3.5m vs $3.1m ST09
    STID Italy, $1.5m vs $1.1m ST09

    France and Italy disappointing (for me) but Brazil excellent because ST09 made $1.9m in total there.
     
  15. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Weekend estimate: $5.66 million for $210.491 million so far. Star Trek made $8.3 million on its fifth weekend.
     
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    I'll take as many Kirks as they throw at me.

    There's been tons of reboots of all sorts throughout history. This one is no different to me. In fact, it may be better than most.
     
  17. The Transformed Man

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    Solid numbers for STID given the competition. I think a $230-235 finish is in the cards now... plus another $40 million plus or so overseas and SITD should finish in the neighborhood of $475-490 million worldwide.

    I'm actually surprised with MOS' numbers... as they kept getting revised downward all weekend. Given the sheer volume of advertising Warners pumped into this thing I doubt they were expecting a $113 million 3-day weekend, probably more like the $132-135 million 3-day ($146 million including Sunday) they were originally estimating. Also given how Friday-Sunday tracked it looks a little frontloaded.

    It will be interesting to see how WOM effects this film as it's doing poorly among the 30+ crowd and great among the 18-24 set. There will be some delicious irony if MOS barely manages to rake in more than Superman Returns adjusted for inflation. Overseas box office is really going to be the key for this movie.

    Great article here:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...fice-man-of-steel-soars-to-125-million-debut/

    Yancy
     
  18. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    I think Man of Steel will make $330-350 million domestic. Worldwide is more of a wildcard, but given the numbers so far I'd say it'll make $750-800 million worldwide.
     
  19. The Transformed Man

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    I'm thinking more like $285-290 especially after this 3-day. $112 is okay, but given where other tentpole superhero franchises are it's nothing spectacular. You have two big films opening next week in Monsters University (which cuts into the younger demographic), and World War Z (which cuts into that 18-24 crowd). Next weekend will be pretty brutal.

    Yancy
     
  20. Set Harth

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    Yeah, it sometimes seems like almost every commercial is one of those "can't decide whether it wants to be an ad for a car or a movie"-style MOS tie-ins...