Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by grendelsbayne, Oct 16, 2013.
There's an artists image of the main shuttlebay, that "landing area" is raised to only two decks thin, but slopes down to a larger hanger inside about 3-4 decks and much wider.
Careful, you keep using hump and back in the same sentence and Riker will come running
I always had a problem with the "see the dolphins" thing. Those dolphins are working members of the crew (maybe even officers) and should be treated with more dignity and respect than having crew and guests come and watch them while they're working. Must be annoying and possibly even humiliating to be trying to get vital work done and off-duty personnel are standing and gawking at you.
I'm sure they didn't like gawkers. But they liked getting waxed. Geordi was known to wax the dolphin on a number of occasions.
Nothing realistic about STD at all. The gravity fall to Earth out of an orbit around the moon being the worst offender. Or the debris field between Abramsprise and Evenuglierprise. Flying debris won't come to a rest in space.
Warp speed, transporters, inertia dampeners, artificial gravity, sound in space, fire in a vacuum...
So which horseshit fantasy crap should we also throw out?
Instantaneous communication across hundreds of lightyears with no signal loss, slow down, not one dead pixel or any sound anomalies.
All of the above in a tiny shuttlecraft nevermind a full sized starship.
Phasers even, magically never ending power, never missing a shot, runs off "nadions" which doesn't come close to explaining "phased energy" which they started out as etc etc
I think that was a euphemism for his flailing love life
Why would it be any different than whenever dignitaries and visitors tour the bridge or engineering?
While intelligent, I always view dolphins as being like children. They get their work done, but they also like to play and to have visitors. And within dolphin culture, it might be normal and quite accepted to show off for the visitors.
I'm reminded of Diane Duane's excellent Dark Mirror, which had a floating (via anti-gravs) and talking (via vocoder) Dolphin-ish alien crewman on the Enterprise-D, named Hwii.
Reminds me of SeaQuest
I did enjoy Dark Mirror.
Dilithium cystals = magic rocks.
Fire in a vacuum. At least, the typical oxygenated, orange type fire that we usually see. There's nothing that says there couldn't be blue flames from a chemical explosion. That could actually be pretty cool if done right.
The others on that list are all just part of the science fiction though. Science that we can't possibly understand because it's beyond our means. But we do understand fire in space, distances between the Moon and Earth, how supernovas react, the nature of black holes, etc. If Star Trek wanted to be more realistic, it would try and respect the basics, but they haven't always done that.
Presumably, Cetacean ops is also where the dolphins and whales also sleep and spend their free time. I imagine it's hell for these dolphins. They are confined to one area of the ship where they sleep and work and have essentially no life outside this. And to make matters worse, everyone drops by to gawk at them. Alien dignitaries don't get guided tour of crew quarters while the crew are sleeping or attending to personal business, yet everyone aboard the ship has the opportunity to watch these dolphins and whales or other aquatic beings doing so. Visits to Cetacean ops should be limited to official visits (or even social ones) only during certain hours. Gawkers watching them doing their business shouldn't be allowed.
Meanwhile, Picard sure was harsh on poor Livingston, keeping him isolated in that aquarium in his ready room, away from the other sea creatures which could have kept him company.
We simply don't know enough about the situation to make a judgement. But if the dolphins are able to communicate with the humans (I'd presume this is a given) I'm sure they'd communicate their need for private time.
For all we know, there could be private areas where they go that are similar to human quarters.
The Dolphin in Seaquest had a "bed" or room to himself somewhere about the ship during the series, we never see it but it was mentioned.
William Shatner guest starred with that dolphin on 'Seaquest'.
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