Sternbach blueprints question

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by graffy, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. Mark_Nguyen

    Mark_Nguyen Commodore Commodore

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    Hooray for specialness! Though for all we know, the squareness was to accommodate extra inertial dampeners to counteract the extra jostling from the higher speeds that lift went at, of course, to get everyone down there soonest. Likewise, the mag coil liners were specially made for that extra speed, and to get everyone around right angle corners a la car from the 1984 show "Automan".

    There, that feels better. :)

    Mark
     
  2. graffy

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    Heh... I wandered off and started nitpicking the hull thickness issues over in Trek Tech and look what happens... :)

    Anyway, the screen shots of the revised layouts look great! Thanks for posting those, Rick. But, I don't suppose you were able to deal more with the varying deck height issue?

    As I've contemplated putting this together in Blender, I took some time and did create generally uniform deck heights throughout both hulls - worked out fairly well, really. But of course, I had to pretty much ignore the hull facade to do it...
     
  3. blssdwlf

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    Say graffy, since you can see people in his elevation view the hull thickness can't be more than a head and a should or about a foot and a half (estimate).
     
  4. graffy

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    Given the back and forth we've had in the hull thread, I don't know that I'd consider the hull lines representative of the actual thickness at *any* particular point. :)

    But yeah, that seems reasonable.
     
  5. Mytran

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    That actually answers my question about the shape and design of the windows - I have never thought of them as skylights before!
     
  6. Rick Sternbach

    Rick Sternbach Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The deck plans and cutaways and such were never really meant to represent real-world construction schematics. The Illustrator line weights were chosen from an artistic standpoint only. Most everything I did in the deck plans was intended as an item locator, more like icons on a general diagram. I'd have to be paid a ton more money to make sure that an NN pt line actually measured out to some real number of feet or meters.

    Rick
     
  7. HarryM

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    I hope we see the whole enchilada some day, looks nice Rick!
     
  8. graffy

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    Yeah, I had more or less assumed as much. I've been toying around with building Enterprise D in Blender just as a fun little architectural side project. Figured maybe I'd try to lay out the framing on the blueprints in Inkscape first, just to see if I could make it all fit... It's a bit of a trick interpreting the frame and hull thicknesses from the tech manual and trying to put together a mental picture of the cross-section. Thus far, I've concluded that determining the hull thickness is more or less a creative exercise. So be it - that's most of the fun, anyway. :)

    Thanks,

    Joel
     
  9. blssdwlf

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    Hi Rick - would a reasonable extrapolation of the thickness of the hull come from a combination of the view you provide (below) and observation of the thickness of the window frames from say, "Ten Forward" or the "briefing room" scenes from the show? Or are those rooms with windows just happen to have unusually thin hull sections?


     
  10. HarryM

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    I remember seeing this when I was a kid and it aired for the first time thinking, "Holy crap! the Borg just did that!"

    Season 2, right? which means I musta been about eight years old? Funny what sticks with you over the years...

    --Alex
     
  12. HarryM

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    Yes, I remember being stunned by it as well, and impressed with the FX, nice work.
     
  13. graffy

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    Heh. How is it I don't remember that one? I know I was avidly watching by season two...

    I think I've more or less concluded the hull thickness can wildly vary, and I don't even need TV show screncaps to defend that. There seems to be plenty of room in the tech manual description to interpret the hull thickness a variety of ways. In fact, the only real conclusion I feel comfortable with is that it can vary between a foot to four feet... (and perhaps even twice that) depending on what part of the hull you're looking at.

    I'm itching to take a stab at laying out some framing members in Inkscape... After following Havoc92's build of the FJ plans (he did the bones last), I think it's probably the place to start after building the hull shell and breaking out the decks...

    Personally, I think a 3D view of the skeletal structure alone would be pretty cool. :)
     
  14. blssdwlf

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    That's beautiful HarryM. Excellent memory! :)

    edit: Huh, is that like the 2nd time we've ever seen a toilet? (other than one from ST5?)...
     
  15. publiusr

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    You deserve it. Thes Dot.com billionairs need to give guys like you and Aridas and others money--I am serious. Steve Jobs was influenced by Whole Earth Catalog. Ed Tuft and others should be sought out by kids like Zuckerberg.

    If I had his money, I would fund things like sailing ship replicas--but especially folks in the visual arts to do what they love--all mortgages paid so they may spend the rest of their lives creating--even if they weren't doing a job for me.
     

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