Starship Size Argument™ thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by WarpFactorZ, May 1, 2013.

  1. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

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    According to the VFX guys, Yorktown is 16km across. According to a quick Google, the STIII spacedock is 3.8km horizontally and 5.5km vertically.
     
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  2. Beyond Darkness

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    Well there is a strong cooperation between the STO developers and the Star Trek officials and many events that take place in the STO world are later considered to be canon (remember the contest for designing the Odessey class starship?). So, if indeed ends up being canon i guess it can be explained from studying Prime Spock's databanks (for the Federation), reverse engineering the Narada (for the Klingon Empire), some kind of communication between Nero and the Impirial Senate or the Tal'Shiar releasing information about late 24th century technology in order to "secure the future of Romulus" in case Nero failed to succeed in his plan "destroying every Federation world for a Romulus free of the Federation" (for the Romulan Star Empire) and finally from aquiring and revesre engineering Narada debris (for the rest of the Empires).

    Yep, me too. I considered them as a neccessary visual change to make the Star Trek world look futuristic during the 2010s. Simply, designs that looked futuristic during the 60s are now archaic.
     
  3. Beyond Darkness

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    Trully gargantuan.
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  4. Gonzo

    Gonzo Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Something serious must have happened in the past to prompt such a huge leap in technology, the Borgs attempt at assimilating the earth in First Contact springs to mind.

    Or perhaps in this time line the Federation found itself at War more often, as we know War always speeds up technological development.

    On saying that I don't really mind if it's not explained, thats the great thing about reboots, what came before doesn't matter.

    Biggest issue is the limitations on fx in the 1960's thru to the 1990's when Next Generation came out, the difference between the quality and complexity of fx and then cgi is like night and day.

    It always made me wonder about the big Romulan Warbirds and why they were so much bigger than their Starfleet counterparts, I just assumed it was that they were powered by a singularity which provided greatly increased power over matter/antimatter and thus allowed them to generate bigger warp fields.

    Thing is if the Federation/Starfleet got their hands on a more advanced matter/antimatter power source at some point in the past the resulting increase in available power would open many technologocal doors not just being able to have larger, faster ships and better shielding.

    The advances would also explain how the antimatter warheads in the torpedoes became more powerful.
     
  5. The Mighty Monkey of Mim

    The Mighty Monkey of Mim Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Say what what now?
     
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  6. SpaceLama

    SpaceLama Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yeah STO is bloody well not canon....
     
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  7. The Mighty Monkey of Mim

    The Mighty Monkey of Mim Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    To be fair, he said "many events that take place in the STO world are later considered to be canon" but I'm completely baffled by even that. There hasn't yet been anything canonical set after STO, so how would events from it have made it into canon, and how would we know if they had? Monkey confused...
     
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  8. Gonzo

    Gonzo Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    STO is about as non canon as it is possible to get. :wtf:
     
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  9. Tomalak

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    There seems to be a lot of empty space inside though, and I was talking about mass rather than diameter. Yorktown was amazing, but didn't strike me as something the builders of Spacedock would have found impossible to construct.
     
  10. SpaceLama

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    Yeah I was thinking that too - although quite a bit of spacedock was also hollow.
     
  11. jamestyler

    jamestyler Commodore Commodore

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    Yorktown was a wonderful design. It made me think of all the great concept art thats kicking about for city redevelopment or new buildings. It's what an architect would design - something magnificent and wonderful, not just a basic structure.

    It also kind of reminds me or Ringworld (of a few of them) merged in with Mass Effect's Citadel. Excellent visuals. And in terms of what could be designed, logical compared to current world artwork.
     
  12. BillJ

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    Starship envy!

    Think I need to go buy a sports car now. :shifty:
     
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  13. Gonzo

    Gonzo Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Alas it seems the nacelles are not as ample as they used to be. :wah: