Starship Farragut's "The Price of Anything"

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Kail, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. nightwind1

    nightwind1 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2010
    Location:
    Des Moines, IA
    Was the planet's surface Vasquez Rocks? Or just somewhere amazingly similar?
     
  2. doubleohfive

    doubleohfive Fleet Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2001
    Location:
    Hollywood, CA
    It wasn't Vasquez Rocks. At least, not all of it was.
     
  3. northstar

    northstar Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2012
    Just saw it. Certainly a very decent episode. Solid script, acting was ok with a few exceptions, editing and pacing was good. I wasn´t convinced with the fx work, though. It was ok, but it screamed CG all the way through - at least for the "obvious" fx parts.
     
  4. Hudson_uk

    Hudson_uk Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2007
    Location:
    Nr Cambridge, UK
    Excellent episode, enjoyed it a lot.
     
  5. USS Intrepid

    USS Intrepid Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 1999
    Location:
    Dundee, Scotland, UK
    I'm way past the stage where I have much desire to say anything beyond whether I enjoyed something or not. Nothing's perfect, but as I said earlier, I enjoyed this quite a lot. :)
     
  6. Kail

    Kail Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2002
    Location:
    Ga.
    John has decided not to step down as Captain Carter. The experience making this film convinced him he should continue. I for one am very happy he is staying on in front of the camera as well as behind. I think his performance shows great strides forward.
     
  7. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Location:
    Walking distance from Starfleet HQ
    I generally don't comment on acting in fanfilms since most of the performers in them aren't trained actors. I will say that John Broughton is much improved in this segment and it's obvious he got some good notes from the director.

    I will agree with Dennis that maybe a comparison to WEAT isn't quite apt, given how many pros worked on that. I think it's fair to use TTI as an example because even unfinished you can still judge the quality of the writing, acting, lighting, camera work, etc. (it also helps that I have seen the ending).

    The location work helps a lot. It opens up the visual scope. There are a few shots there that are pretty damned good.

    So, in general, for a fan film it's really good. That said, it's a fan film, and it's got its share of flaws.

    The lighting is pretty good, albeit the color correction needs some work (it's kind of flat). The camera work is pretty good in some ways as there are some nicely framed shots which are somewhat undermined (as ever in fanfilms) by a dogged inability to be mindful of not crossing the line (I'm looking at you, transporter room scene).

    The main story arc is predictable there's no real twists or surprises. The character conflict is pretty one-note.

    The Romulans: The battle goes on much too long and literally stops the main story for over six minutes for...nothing. The events don't advance the story or illustrate anything about the characters. It's just a by-the-numbers action sequence with starships going pew-pew at each other. Tired. The fact that it's not intercut with the main story means I was left tapping my fingers in impatience to get back to what was happening on the planet.

    The cloaked Romulan supersoldier—a Trekified version of the smoke monster from Lost—is set up and then never paid off in any meaningful way. They never resolve this guy. He's not thematically tied to anything. The effect on him is all right, but the lumbering, zombie-on-crack arm waving of the figure is unintentionally hilarious.

    In fact, the Romulans are just forgotten when they beam up. Loose ends are not satisfying.
    So, critiques aside, kudos to the team for making one of the best Trek fanfilms yet. Well done.
     
  8. doubleohfive

    doubleohfive Fleet Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2001
    Location:
    Hollywood, CA
    Warning: Spoilers abound below the cut:

    Having watched “The Price of Anything” three times now in as many days, walking away from the latest production I’m not quite sure I understand what the point of the adventure was. Don’t get me wrong – the production values on this film are outstanding. The location used for the Class-K planet is stunning to behold, and despite the very shaky story logic throughout, the planet-side bits were the most interesting, visually and in terms of the characters themselves.

    The story: On the one hand, you have the story of the nektos plant, allegedly the only one left in the galaxy and also the only one that will lead to a cure to Freydox Syndrome (more on this later), and on the other there’s the story about the Romulans, who coincidentally happen to have a ship adrift thanks to a tactical experiment gone awry… and in the end the big lesson is “Everything deserves a second chance.” Most of my issues with the film are with the story and script.

    My first, main issue is with the nektos plant. Great effort is made by Doctor Carter to remind us how important this single plant is, that it can’t be cloned, that it won’t grow and propagate unless in a very specific environment. The reason for all this effort being made to get the plant to its destination? The nektos plant is the key to the cure to Freydox Syndrome. Which is all well and good, but when Captain Carter learns of his father’s own affliction with the dreaded Freydox Syndrome, he asks the obvious question – why not use the plant to cure yourself? Doctor Carter’s answer: The is the only plant that can cure Freydox, which is why it must be transplanted. This begs the question – if it’s the only plant that can cure the disease, and is thus so rare and effective that it must be preserved in order to use it to build crops of it in the ideal location, how the hell does Doctor Carter even know the plant will work? If no tests, no cure has been established already, all the ballyhooing and running around that goes on in this episode is all on a gamble. The film ends with Carter planting the nektos on Sironus Four. How long after he plants that nektos do Federation scientists find out whether or not it was all worth it? Isn't that, um, a bit risky?

    [​IMG]
    "RISK IS OUR BUSINESS!"


    Which brings me to my second issue. Carter and his daddy issues with Doctor Carter. Frank Hernandez does a serviceable job as the elder Carter, but he also looks like he’s maybe two or three years older than John Broughton, so I never really bought the “age” relationship between the two. We learn fairly early on that Doctor Carter has contracted/developed Freydox Syndrome, as evidenced by his frequent seizures/convulsions throughout most of the episode. This is about as far as the story goes in terms of telling or showing us how ravaging this disease is. When asked by his son, why Doctor Carter didn’t turn to his wife for help, the elder Carter simply says (and repeats, later, nearly verbatim) that “she would have poured everything in to me and my work” to help him. Which again begs a question: So? Since we are never given any specific details about why Carter has these issues with his father, or why Doctor Carter was allegedly absent during his son’s earlier life (“You should have seen me at my high school track meets!”) Doctor Carter’s explanations make no sense. Is he prideful? Or is he just dumb? If he knows he’s got this fatal, horrific disease, that clearly causes him to go in to crippling spasms of pain, why not let his wife help him get through it? If Doctor Carter is so noble that he’s willing to sacrifice himself to continue the work of developing the cure himself, isn’t it more selfish to risk his own death before being able to establish the cure rather than to lean on his wife who would have (according to his son) willingly stood by him had he only asked?

    If anything, this film places Captain Jack Carter in a really bad light. The guy is a complete dick throughout the story. He has issues with his father, so he maintains his distance. I get that. ("Fathers and sons…” Kirk says.) But even after Doctor Carter reveals his condition to his son, Captain Jack maintains his distance and his standoffishness. Without knowing what their conflict is about, Jack comes across as a petulant child holding a grudge. And it gets worse on the planet, too: Piecing together that the Romulan they encounter is the ship’s cook, Jack reveals this information as if amusing to himself, looking down on the guy. (I guess not everyone gets to dress up and play Captain on Romulus.) So, on top of being a dick to his dying father, Carter's going to be a dick to his dying enemy. Truly, a sterling example of Gene Roddenberry's evolved, 23rd century human being.

    [​IMG]
    "You know the difference between you and me? I make this look good."


    Later, when the Predator attacks, Arnold Schwarzenegger is nowhere to be found. But the Romulan cook promises to tell Carter everything, as long as they take him with them. “I don’t want to die here,” he says. And what happens? The monster drags the Romulan away (I guess we’re aping TNG’s “Darmok” now) while Carter just somersaults away, apparently lacking the attention span to do anything about it until a few moments later when he decides that while it isn’t ok to risk his own life for a Romulan, it is ok to risk his own life for all those afflicted colonists (and oh yeah, his dad.) This isn’t the behavior of a heroic starship captain in the Star Trek universe. You never saw Picard just abandon someone to a monster of the week without trying to save them. You might argue that Carter is nursing a legitimate emotional issue with regard to his father, but he also doesn’t do anything to resolve it either and letting it affect everything he does in this episode just makes him look foolish.

    [​IMG]
    Get to the choppa!

    There are a lot of other, minor things I’d have fixed as well: the new series title logo is rather spiffy, but the thin Eurostile font and the electronic orchestra performing the opening theme really reminded me more of the opening to seaQuest 2032 than anything else, and honestly, that’s not the greatest association to be made.

    The opening shots after the title sequence go by too quickly, too. There’s a title card over three separate shots in quick succession, and I’m wondering why this was done. Surely it wasn’t because of time constraints for the episode itself, so it’s a big jarring and puzzling to watch.

    [​IMG]
    Slow down...


    [​IMG]
    ...too fast!


    [​IMG]
    What the hell is a 'scree play' ?


    Kirk’s cameo is nice (if stunt-y), and the more I see Vic Mignona as Kirk, the more I believe he is Kirk. Vic has that “swagger,” I guess. But his Kirk is also rather nosy about Carter’s business with his father, and moreso than we saw in “The Captaincy,” (Farragut’s first episode, which included a cameos from New Voyages/Phase II Kirk, Spock and McCoy), Kirk and Carter seem to be quite friendly here, so I can give it a pass. Though knowing little about the recent bad blood between Phase II and Vic Mignona, I am genuinely curious as to how the politics between Farragut Films and James Cawley/the Phase II crew will all play out.

    [​IMG]
    God speed, John Carter. You know, for now.


    Another simple thing that could have easily been fixed with just a little foresight and common sense is Amy Sepan’s scene in Sickbay. In it, she has a long conversation with Carter regarding his father’s health. Medical information which, unless I’m mistaken, is supposed to be confidential between a patient and their doctor. Now, we’ve seen it many, many times on various Star Treks that doctors will present their medical reports to their captains. That’s not the issue here. The issue is the she gives this very personal report about Doctor Carter’s health to Captain Carter over the viewscreen… where we clearly see Carter is on the bridge, and presumably everyone on the bridge is also listening in. I guess it’s a good thing Doctor Carter had Fraydar’s Syndrome and not something more embarrassing like hemorrhoids or a pimple on his dick. How difficult would it have been to have Carter actually in sickbay for this conversation?

    I’ve mentioned how great the location shooting for this episode was – and I mean it. I know its not Vasquez Rocks, but it does summon a comparison. About my only complaint here would simply be that some shots seem very visibly color-corrected or with a filter applied, while others seemingly aren’t. It’s most jarring when shots in sequence go from filtered, non-filtered, and then filtered again.

    Another story point that I think got glossed over: Tacket tells Smithfield he talked to Kirk on subspace, wherein a ton of expository information is explained. I’d have had Tacket and Smithfield both be on the call to Kirk, and have the information shared this way. Again, there really isn’t much of a time constraint with these episodes the way there would be with a network television show, so its certainly possible it could have been done. As it is, its rather convenient that while Tacket is shooting from the hip trying to get things done, Smithfield is in the dark questioning everything he does until he explains to her what Kirk told him. Which is even more silly, honestly, because you would think that Smithfield would trust Tacket after all their years as friends (and, if “Just Passing Through” is to be believed, more than friends) instead of just being a cypher for the usual “Hey, you can’t do that!” that we get in most Trek stories.

    Speaking of Smithfield, there’s a bit during the battle with the Romulans where Tacket has a lengthy conversation with her over the intercom. Smithfield details all the damage and what needs to be done to repair the ship. Not cutting to her while she delivered these lines at least once is rather lazy, but I can excuse it if there's no actual set to shoot said cutaway on. Either way in the end it doesn’t really matter because moments after Smithfield finishes listing all the things she’s got to do to fix the ship, she steps off the elevator and just stands on the bridge as if she’s got all the time in the world. Which, kind of flies in the face of their predicament at that point in the story. Shouldn’t she be down in Engineering fixing the ship?

    Tacket’s plan to lure the Romulans in to the solar wind is clever but it shortchanges what I’m assuming we’re supposed to believe is a “brilliant” Romulan commander. As it is, she’s just another mustache twirling villain that overenunciates. It would have been more interesting to see the Romulan commander see right through Tacket’s plan and instead retaliate in her own way, only to have Tacket have accounted for this, thereby bluffing her in to basically crippling her ship herself.

    Switching to acting: Really, the biggest problem here is that with the exception of Tacket and Smithfield, none of the actors/characters here have seem to be capable of displaying any kind of emotion. Kirk has his swagger, of couse, but the rest are just spitting out lines. The big moment/reveal of the Predator/Romulan Super Soldier which has Carter belt out “My god!” is laughable because there’s just no awe, no shock to it. If I had any suggestion to make, it would be to work on the emotionality of these characters.

    Now, on to the good stuff! As I’ve mentioned, the production value on the film is outstanding. The sets, wardrobe and visual effects are top notch. The music, while obviously synthesized is never intrusive or obnoxious. There’s a definite “feel” for TOS here, helped immeasurably by lighting and the use of color.

    The acting isn’t terrible; it’s certainly better than in most fan films, but easily the best performances are from Mignona as Kirk and Frank Hernandez. Gina Hernandez has a few nice scenes as the helmsman on Farragut, but there’s not really much for her to play with beyond the odd line here and there. As for the big three, Broughton and the Bednars still really sell the truth of their friendship on screen. It’s easy to see their real life relationship populating the little moments their characters experience throughout the film here, and this element of the series has always been one of my favorite. I like their triumvirate, if only because I believe that they'd actually be good friends, even in the most exotic and crazy of scenarios.

    While there are a lot of directorial and editorial choices that puzzled me, there are just as many that had me cheering. Most of the interesting camerawork happens on the planet surface, but I found the scene in the transporter room toward the end, with the dolly down on the transporter pad to be most effective. Tacket helping Carter up as he limped away was simply beautiful. If only Broughton could be moved to display any kind of emotion in that scene, it might have been near-perfect.

    The cinematography is phenomenal. There are a lot of shots that were obviously carefully composed and storyboarded, which you certainly don’t see in every fan film. Just as in his bootleg of “Kitumba,” Vic Mignona demonstrates that at least some of the time, he’s got a pretty good eye when it comes to directing.

    [​IMG]
    Like a boss.


    Is this the best fan film ever made? No. It’s pretty good though, and certainly not the worst. If anything it simply suffers from the same problem that most fan films do, and if the powers that be can simply let someone edit their script for logic and common sense, most of these issues would be resolved quickly. Though it may not seem like it from this review, I quite enjoyed “The Price of Anything,” and look forward to Farragut’s next adventure.
     
  9. J.C. England

    J.C. England Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Location:
    Bethany/OKC, Oklahoma
    Best of the Farragut's releases! Definitely TREK on all counts, and was super fun to watch! Great job, guys & gals!
     
  10. CaptainSerek

    CaptainSerek Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2003
    Location:
    Sun Valley, California, USA
    I was able to watch it last night, I enjoyed it, as expected.
     
  11. Lord Garth FOI

    Lord Garth FOI Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010
    Loved it
    Fabulous episode
    Loved Vic's slightly more Shatnerian touch with his performance as well. Hope he brings that with him to further Continues outings
    If the set lighting could be tweaked somehow it would be outstanding

    Terrific stuff
     
  12. DestinyCaptain

    DestinyCaptain Commander Red Shirt

    So, I am watching It's a Wonderful Life... You ever notice the editing in this thing? It's a pretty solid film. Acting is very good all the way around. The story is well paced. They way the shots are composed are excellent, especially for the period. When you get to the editing, it's a little weird. 90% of it is smooth and well done. There are, however, some VERY jarring cuts that I can't quite explain. One if the biggest is when Potter has the run in with George's uncle at the bank. The scene is cut with a few shots that are almost if they were shot and reshot and heavily improvised on the day of the shoot. Though this scene sticks out like a sore thumb, the film is so much better than this one spot. It's important to remember things like this when watching fan films. The execution doesn't always have to be perfect when making any film. Thumbs up Farragut.
     
  13. Forbin

    Forbin Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Location:
    I said out, dammit!
    WTH?!!? :(

    Never mind. The OP link didn't work, but I found it.
     
  14. Kail

    Kail Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2002
    Location:
    Ga.
  15. Titan Designer

    Titan Designer Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2005
    Location:
    Colorado Springs, CO
    watched it, loved it, shared it. Keep them coming!!!
     
  16. Duane

    Duane Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2006
    Location:
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    I enjoyed this. Strangely the audio quality when they were on the planet was even better than when they were aboard ship. Were all of those lines dubbed? Regardless, nice work!
     
  17. Linnear

    Linnear Lieutenant Commander

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2006
    Location:
    Newport Beach, CA
    Watched it last night and enjoyed it. Certainly the best Farragut effort to date.

    Alec
     
  18. nickyboy

    nickyboy Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Brilliant stuff
     
  19. Tom

    Tom Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2003
    Location:
    In your Mind!
    I enjiyed the episode alot! Kudo's to all my freinds at Farragut! Mike Struck did a great job with the VFX!
     
  20. Solarbaby

    Solarbaby Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Location:
    solarbaby
    I agree with others' comments about the story. It could have been more enjoyable with a better edited script. However it was extremely enjoyable. The production values were fantastic and the acting was great
     

Share This Page