Starship Bridge's

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  1. James Wright

    James Wright Commodore Commodore

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    Which starship bridge is larger,the bridge of the refit Enterprise or the bridge of the K't'inga?
    Are the blueprints of the K't'inga wrong as to where the bridge is located?

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  2. Timo

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    The ST:TMP bridge of a K't'inga is a maze, so no telling how big it really is. I see nothing wrong with placing it where the ST:TMP zoom-in suggests, in that tower structure atop the forward section - but this placement and scale might not be doing it full justice:

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/_..._bridge_layout_sketches_by_Andrew_Probert.jpg

    Possibly everything is set one deck lower, and the ship is a bit bigger than implied here. However, I'm personally okay with this scale. Note the possibility, nay, the implied existence of further spaces to port and starboard of the main viewer...

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  3. feek61

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    ^^^
    Your links don't work.
     
  4. Squiggy

    Squiggy FrozenToad Premium Member

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    Copy and paste. Bernd's website has always done that.
     
  5. yenny

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    It's not the link. It's to do that the owner of that website don't like anyone downloading anything from his website. You will have to go to another website.
     
  6. James Wright

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    I was looking at some diagrams of TMP Enterprise & the IKC Amar at this web site.
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery.htm
    Look at both Alien & Federation pages in the locations section.
    The bridge of the Amar might be larger than the bridge of TMP Enterprise but!?

    I found two windows or ports on the back or stern side of the Amar's bridge tower, go here and look at the fifth picture.
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/K't'inga_class
    You'll have to resize the picture to see the windows/ports.

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  7. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    I always found the configuration of the Amar's bridge design curious, to have the Captain in front of everyone else. As a Klingon commander, I wouldn't want to have my back to all my underlings, lest I be shot in the back or sneaked up from behind and have my throat cut. :)
     
  8. Mark_Nguyen

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    That's why there's an unseen rear view mirror on the bridge, right above the main viewer. :P

    More importantly, I wouldn't like that configuration since you'd only ever be looking over your shoulder to issue orders, as we saw Captain Lenard do. Kinda negates any advantage you'd have of an unobstructed view of the front window. :P

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    ^^^
    Maybe it's a "lead from the front" instinct that overrides paranoia and ergonomics.
     
  10. The Librarian

    The Librarian Commodore Commodore

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    Shooting someone in the back is dishonorable. Admittedly, that's rarely actually stopped a Klingon from doing something, but I imagine that for you not to get executed for murdering your captain you'd have to do it in a straight-up fight.
     
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    ^ Yep. There are strict rules in Klingon society as to who can make challenges, and how they can do it. Has to be face to face combat, usually with knives or bat'leths or even fists.
     
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    Klingon fist fight to the death... I'd watch that.
     
  13. Mark_Nguyen

    Mark_Nguyen Commodore Commodore

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    No such thing. For some reason, they have freakin' CLAWS on their armor! :D

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  14. Dale Sams

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    Here I thought this was going to be a thread about why the most important part of the ship is exposed like a hood ornament.
     
  15. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    ^^^ Aw, hell, that was just simply chalked up to one of Roddenberry's idiotic "laws" of starship design. Been debated to death for years.
     
  16. ATimson

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    How often has a bridge actually taken direct damage (not exploding consoles - something that breached the hull)?

    "Year of Hell" and the Abrams movie are the only examples that I can think of off the top of my head. 99% of the time, the shields and hull (and plot armor) do a good enough job of protecting the bridge from damage. Burying it deeper in the hull would be pointless from a design perspective, and detrimental from a dramatic one.

    (And if you're a believer in replaceable bridge modules, burying it would complicate or prevent those.)
     
  17. Squiggy

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    Enterprise's mirror universe episode also had a bridge blowout. Generations would have but the plot got in the way.
     
  18. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    In fact, in one Enterprise episode that had an alternate future thing going on - "Twilight" - the whole top of the bridge got ripped off and that was all she wrote.

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  19. B.J.

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    Wasn't there also a bridge blowout in Nemesis?
     
  20. Squiggy

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    Yes. The helmsman got blown out, Troi took the wheel, got a text message and crashed the ship...again.
     

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