Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by cooleddie74, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. BillJ

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Then I vote to kill Solo in the first minutes of Episode VII! :p
     
  2. thumbtack

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    I thought Ford wanted an Indiana Jones movie, rather than piles of cash (which seems unlikely from Disney) to come back?


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  3. JarodRussell

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    That makes it even easier not to buy a ticket for that thing. I usually don't go to premieres.
     
  4. ATimson

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Did you stop watching Episodes V and VI because they killed off Obi-Wan Kenobi in Episode IV?

    It's almost a tradition at this point: old guy dies in the first episode of the trilogy. First Qui-Gon, then Obi-Wan, now it's Han's turn! :guffaw:
     
  5. cooleddie74

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Even if Han dies in Episode VII I'm seeing the next two films to round out the Saga. For me, the watchability of live-action Star Wars doesn't turn on just one character no matter how much I've loved them since I was a little kid.

    Besides: Episodes VIII and IX could be the best ones in the new trilogy. ;)
     
  6. Kelthaz

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Why are you so opposed to character death in media?
     
  7. sojourner

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    So, when the rumors first started to circulate back around the time of Empire that Lucas wanted to do 9 movies, did anyone else imagine it would really take the better part of 40 years? I was in fucking middle school.
     
  8. sttngfan1701d

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    But the 30-year time gap does make things interesting story wise. If they had kept making sequels after Jedi it might have cheapened the defeat of the Empire. Who was going to be the enemy...an unknown Sith protege of Vader? Remnants of the Empire? A rogue Star Destroyer admiral? I guess the novels covered that ground...I didn't read much of the EU.

    This way it keeps things completely fresh. We have no idea what's been going on or what's been brewing in the background for decades to get our heroes to take up arms again.
     
  9. cooleddie74

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    And it's the first time we don't know what going to happen (at least in the wider tapestry of things) since the gap between Empire and Jedi. With the Prequels you knew Anakin would grow up, succumb to his weaknesses and seductions and fall to the Dark Side, becoming Vader and helping the Emperor erradicate the rest of the Jedi. The Clone Wars would happen. The Republic would collapse. The twins are born and Yoda and Obi-Wan go into hiding. Etc.


    This time, we know nothing. The slate's clean. That's refreshing and exciting.
     
  10. sojourner

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    To be fair, if Lucas hadn't gotten tired of making the movies, The empire probably wouldn't have been defeated so completely in Return of the Jedi. There was always that thing about Luke falling to the darkside and becoming emperor.

    and my previous post isn't so much about why it took so long, but that I am now passing middle age and still waiting. 11 year old me would be amazed at that.
     
  11. davejames

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Well to be fair to Ford, the way I believe the story goes is that he felt the script for ROTJ was too cutesy and lacking in any emotional weight (especially compared to the previous movie), and that one way to fix that would be to sacrifice Han at the end.

    It wasn't motivated by his lack of interest in the character so much. At least at that point (once they rejected his idea and went with the story they did, it's pretty obvious from his performance then that he was not too thrilled).
     
  12. Mr. Adventure

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    ^ Hmmm, Han on the Falcon instead sacrificing to blow up the Death Star, might've worked.
     
  13. FPAlpha

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Exactly and i'm really excited because of it.

    I'm in my late 30s so i was way too young to see the original movies in theatres. I saw A New Hope in the 90s when Lucas started messing with the movies with new CGI effects and scenes and i passed on the next 2 movies.

    Prequel trilogy.. let's not talk about it.

    Now with Abrams at the helm i'm confident we'll get some awesome movies. I really like his Star Trek movies but they have their flaws, i.e. the message of Star Trek got a "little" buried under the avalance of big action pieces and lens flares ( i swear to god.. if he lens flares Star Wars he'll be lynched at Comic Con!), they certainly ain't Star Trek 2 or Star Trek 6 storywise.

    However with Star Wars that doesn't matter.. they are old school adventure movies without some underlying theme or message and Abrams is perfect for such movies. He's got no established story that ties his hands, he's absolutely free storywise and can go into almost any direction.

    That picture released recently with the entire cast just brought a smile to my face and expect big things for the movies. I want to feel like the kids in the 70s and early 80s who saw these movies for the first time and i'll do my absolute best to stay spoiler free once real news become available.

    I may try to avoid the trailers even though that may be impossible when i go to a movie that will have the trailer before it.

    Don't fuck this up JJ! ;)
     
  14. sttngfan1701d

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    Is anyone else wondering about Carrie Fisher? I can pretty much imagine Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill slipping back into their roles but the only things I associate with Carrie Fisher these days is comedy and self-parody. I haven't seen her serious acting, or seen her "play it straight," as it were. I'm not saying Leia was ever some grand dramatic performance but I'm having trouble imagining it.
     
  15. Reverend

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    The only thing that makes me think it'll be difficult to see her as Leia again is the voice. Somehow I doubt Leia would have spent 30 years developing a nice smoker's rasp. :/
     
  16. Set Harth

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    Hey, at least we got the Han troll face out of it.
     
  17. JarodRussell

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    See, that is the thing. I saw Star Wars first, I had no "attachment" to Obi-Wan Kenobi. Had I seen the prequels first, killing off Obi-Wan would have sucked pretty much.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    Meh. Your choice if you do indeed decide to stop watching the new movies, but one can be attached to an established character and continue viewing later stories in the narrative even after they've been killed off. Doesn't remotely mean Episodes VIII and IX will be vastly inferior and less entertaining films because Harrison wouldn't be in the cast, but to each their own.
     
  19. Timby

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    No, but I'm kind of glad. Several years ago, a friend of mine and I were having a discussion about movies long in development hell, and he asked me which I thought would get made first, Arrested Development or Ghostbusters III. My response was Star Wars: Episode VII. (This was back in like 2010, long before there were rumblings of this.)

    He looks at me with disdain and said, "No way. No fucking way. If they make another Star Wars before a new Ghostbusters, I'll give you a hundred bucks."

    I collected on that hundred bucks this week. :cool:
     
  20. davejames

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    Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

    I was having trouble imagining it as well, especially when it comes to her playing the softer and more maternal Leia we saw in ROTJ. But the character was actually a lot more feisty and sarcastic than that in the first two movies, and I think there's probably a good chance Fisher could still play that version pretty well.

    At least that's the way I hope they go, since that's the Leia I (and probably most people) always preferred anyway.