And small communicators existed before Star Trek (the wristwatch radio from Dick Tracy, for instance), yet that doesn't stop people from claiming that Star Trek's communicators influenced the cell phone, nor should it, because it did. Just because something existed in basic form earlier doesn't mean a later work can't offer inspiration as well. Your problem is that you whittle everything down to an all or nothing approach. It's both, and so is Star Trek, albeit leaning more toward the science fiction end of things than Star Wars does. And Star Trek is "Wagon Train to the Stars" (according to Roddenberry himself) with a healthy dose of Forbidden Planet thrown in. Are you going to dismiss it completely now too, or realize that everything nowadays is derivative of some earlier work(s) and that there's nothing wrong with that? I completely disagree that Star Wars is not artistic, but that's entirely subjective. Although I'm sure you've somehow managed to convince yourself it's fact. No way. Ya think? Maybe that absurdity is why no one else took it particularly seriously except you? Oh, you did think you were spouting facts not opinions. I was right after all. Why would I have to expound upon anything? I provided actual evidence of people across multiple technical fields, including robotics, who were inspired by Star Wars, and you basically said, "nuh uh, I knew some guys..." Surely a debate pro like yourself must know that anecdotes mean next to nothing, and that appeals to authority aren't far behind. This never should have even been a debate. It was a silly, lighthearted topic which you came in and turned ultra-serious and hostile, as you've done across the board in your brief time here.