STAR TREK the enemy of LOST IN SPACE?

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by ZapBrannigan, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. Redfern

    Redfern Commodore Commodore

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    You have obviously never met a co-worker of mine named Rob. This disturbed fellow feels compelled to drop an "F bomb" at least every other sentence. It would be one thing if I worked on a shipyard loading dock for some other equivalent "blue collar" job. But we are both system engineers in a 7 story tall office building with a dress code mandating button down shirts and ties.

    One time I got so frustrated with him that I asked, "So, how's your Tourette syndrome today?"

    An exceptionally vile individual.

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  2. Warped9

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    Well, I did know a fellow from Columbia who covered his lapses in English vocabulary with an *F* about every sentence. He was actually a pretty funny guy, but it could get old. :lol:
     
  3. Christopher

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    It varies depending on region, culture, and generations. My relatives rarely swear, but my author colleagues from New York use the F-word casually and routinely. And I once overheard a conversation by two younger men on a bus in which a certain four-syllable epithet was used in pretty much every sentence, essentially as a pronoun, and was so casual and stripped of meaning that it had become elided to "m'fuh" or "m'fug." And yet when one of the speakers wanted to convey genuine offense, he said, "What the hell?!"
     
  4. MANT!

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    I was in the USAF (the most "civilized" of the services) and I remember the F-word being used several times in a sentence by just about everyone EXCEPT the officers...
    It took me a while to stop using it in casual conversation..example (while on my first leave back home).."Mom! these are the best f*cking pancakes ever!"or "Thanks Mom! you did my f*cking laundry!"... I was a bad person.. Now I only use it to deliver proper emphasis in a workplace setting..
     
  5. ZapBrannigan

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    Regarding this revelation that a duplicate Jupiter 2 cockpit set was built for special viewport situations:

    http://jupiter2project.com/mcc/index.html

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    And of course we know that they also built a duplicate set of the J2 ship exterior exclusively for space walk scenes, rather than re-use the planet-side ship exterior set:

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    I find that I cannot think of a single standing set from the Enterprise that they built a duplicate of for special situations. Am I missing anything? It seems like there was only one of every set on Star Trek, and you can only do so much with the way a given set is built.

    I suspect this is because Fox was so much bigger and better capitalized than Desilu, and Fox was thus able to do things bigger. This gave them very dynamic, versatile filming capabilities, like the impressive starfield and weightless rigging John Robinson enjoyed.
     
  6. TREK_GOD_1

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    Land of the Giants actually moved from the initial shock/discovery conflicts between earthlings (or "little people," as they were described) and giants, to the running storyline about the government's various agents pursuing the "little people" as a threat (and an interest in earth technology). So, repetition did not set in as in other Allen series.
     
  7. davejames

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    I think the closest would probably be the Galileo interior, which was a bigger version of the interior built into the actual shuttlecraft (although I think all we saw in that one was a couple of chairs).
     
  8. Ssosmcin

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    Well, the first season did kind of settle into the "little people captured and everyone else has to climb and climb and climb for 45 minutes to rescue them" formula that made the latter half of the first season pretty dull. The second season sort of started the same way but then got "Irwin Allen wacky" with time travelers, radiation hallucinations, clones, and secret cities. This actually made the series a lot more fun for me.

    It is that wackiness I'm talking about mostly. Without Smith, Lost in Space probably would have been a weird show with eccentric aliens either way, but played straight by the cast, leaving the absurdity to the situation instead of the reactions of the characters. Admiral Nelson vs a spy and Admiral Nelson vs a flame monster: the only difference was the adversary. Basehart played them equally straight, but the latter episode was still weird and considered pretty danged silly.
     
  9. Christopher

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    To the best of my knowledge, the shuttle exterior mockup had no interior beyond the bare minimum that needed to be visible through the door. I don't think it counts.

    I wondered if there might've been more than one turbolift car, one behind the bridge doors and another on the corridor set, or just standing by itself so a camera could easily see in. But all the TOS set blueprints I can find show only the car on the bridge set and just dotted circles where a turbolift could go on the corridor set, suggesting that they only had the one car and moved it as needed.
     
  10. davejames

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    Never really considered it before, but I think Guy Williams would have made a pretty awesome Enterprise captain.

    I always thought he was a really compelling and charming presence on screen, and thought it was a shame we saw less and less of him as the show went on.
     
  11. Karl Shoottheglass

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    Something about George Clooney's hair and face always makes me think of Guy Williams. Still wish Williams---and the others---had better LIS dialogue. Regarding the unholy trio of Will, Smith and the Robot, I always concluded that there was WAY too much of Will, also too much of Smith despite his humor, and never too much of the Robot who was actually the funniest of them all.

    I too got bored with LAND OF THE GIANTS weekly ''two get captured, three rescue one but two of the three get captured'' routine. Loved the show as a kid. I found it repetitive in 1990. Now, maybe because I hadn't seen it for so long, I like it without loving it now. Something about Gary Conway's hair always makes me think of Ted Danson.
     
  12. ZapBrannigan

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    I think Shatner was a little more accomplished as an actor, but Williams would have been very good in his own way. Both men made a conscious effort to move with a cool, catlike, athletic gracefulness. Maybe Williams would have played Kirk overall in way similar to Shatner. Leonard Nimoy might have found the same kind of "space" in which to fulfill Spock's potential.

    On the other hand, it's doubtful that the Spock role would have ended up so similar if Mark Goddard had gotten it.


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  13. Christopher

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    ^Good lord, they cut Penny off at the waist and stuck her onto the back of a chair!
     
  14. davejames

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    Yeah I haven't watched LIS or Zorro in awhile so I don't remember what kind of acting range he had, but I can definitely see him having much the same kind of energy and commanding presence as Shatner. And the dynamic between him and Nimoy probably would have been pretty similar as well.

    At the very least, it would have been cool to see him as a fellow Starship captain in an episode.
     
  15. Melakon

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    Half a Penny is better than none.
     
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    :lol: Thanks, I just about had an accident!
     
  18. jpv2000

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    I would have enjoyed that. Guy Williams was one of the very few things I enjoyed about LIS.
     
  19. NTRPRZ

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    I think Guy's frustration showed in a number in third season shows. He seemed particularly grouchy in many of them.

    Jeff
     
  20. Duncan MacLeod

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    I seem to recall that he and June Lockhart were removed from at least one episode for laughing too hard at the silly script.

    In all honesty though, I can't blame him for being grouchy. He was reduced to playing 4th fiddle behind Smith, Will and the Robot until the last 5 minutes when he'd come in to save the day. Being the hero is fun and all, but as an actor he had to want more than that.