"Star Trek: Phase II" Enterprise

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Admiral Buzzkill, May 23, 2008.

  1. Joe_Atari

    Joe_Atari Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    A Galactica domestic theatrical release poster I have from 1979 says, "Two years in the making... presented at a cost of $14,000,000"! I guess they were counting the entire series at that point? I'm sorry, "The Lost Warrior" did not cost $1,000,000. Publicists...

    Good luck with the PC; looking forward to your next pass on the PII E!
     
  2. Captain Robert April

    Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Admiral

    Roddenberry would've nixed any sort of disco music for the same reason he didn't go for any funky 60's style music for the original series, because it immediately dates the program, network execs be damned.

    And Magicam was not Trumbull's company. Trumbull was brought in when the project was finally changed to a major motion picture and Magicam was let go. They would've been fine for the small screen (just see how they did with Carl Sagan's "Cosmos"), but not for the big screen.
     
  3. Chaos Descending

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    I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but didn't Trumbull invent the Magiam system in the first place for The Starlost? I believe that's why the poster above referred to it as "DOug Trumbull's Magicam video composition process".
     
  4. DestinyCaptain

    DestinyCaptain Commander Red Shirt

    Is it just me or didn't the Magicam process footage look just like the chroma key shots from Land Of The Lost? I really don't see why they thought it was gonna work for ANY production...
     
  5. BolianAuthor

    BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Rear Admiral

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    Well, the TOS theme was very samba-like, and samba music was HUGE in the 1960's.
     
  6. Captain Robert April

    Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Admiral

    From Memory Alpha...

     
  7. chardman

    chardman Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Trumbull did develop Magicam. Here's the patent application illustration on wiki.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magicam-patent.png

    And from the Wiki page on the Starlost http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlost

    To the best of my knowledge, the ONLY aspect of Magicam that Paramount ever dealt with was the miniatures fabrication end of things. The acquired it when the agreed to finance Trumbull's "Showscan" project, which utilized a wide format 70mm film (w/ sideways frames, 70mm tall by roughly 150mm wide) shown at 60fps (basically, a more advanced predecessor to IMAX, which utilized the same "sideways" format to more than double the projectable dimensions of 70mm filmstock).
     
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  8. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I've always been amazed at how little there is about Magicam out there. I've started compiling references in order to write a Wikipedia entry on the subject, but not quite gotten to the point where I have enough material to make anything more than a stub out of it.

    What's the source for this number?
     
  9. chardman

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    It's not all that surprising to me, as it was a technology that just didn't work reliably, and was quickly abandoned. The only reason the company stayed around as long as it did had little or nothing to do with the Magicam technology itself, but because of the incredible model-making crew they had, and their ability to stretch standard chroma-key composites to their very limits. Keep in mind that the ONLY screen credits the company has beside ST:TMP are "Cosmos" and "The Greatest American Hero". And while they used the actual Magicam technology in "Cosmos" for Sagan's visit to a virtual Alexandrian Library, ALL the other effects were standard chroma-key shots that didn't utilize any aspect of the Magicam process, or simple miniatures shots. And the effects for Greatest American Hero were limited to a few standard miniatures shots (the alien craft of the guys who left the super-suit) and fairly pedestrian chroma-key flying shots.


    Years ago, I saw a video film on late night television, which was apparently the only project to utilize the Magicam process extensively. I don't know what it was called, and can't find any reference to it at all, and remember only that the effects looked pretty crappy.
     
  10. USS Mariner

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    I'm surprised no one has actually tried to do this with modern technology. It shouldn't be hard to write a program for and build a rig that would accurately translate and scale both cameras in sync.

    Sure, we can bypass this thanks to CGI, but I'd just like to see this done as a proof-of-concept.
     
  11. BolianAuthor

    BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Rear Admiral

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    I do and will.
     
  12. Mytran

    Mytran Commodore Commodore

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    I've heard the software can be twitchy with some sound card setups, but it's definitely worth a try
     
  13. Admiral Buzzkill

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    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8A8Uxd8CY&fmt=18[/yt]

    This is it.

    I've got an HD version but can't figure out how to get it to display in HD at youtube.
     
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  14. Captain Robert April

    Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Admiral

    The ship looks a lot better, and the credits are pretty spiffy (maybe a little too nice for the mid 70's). Oh, and it was Willard Decker, not William.

    I wonder how it'd play with the opening narration bit from the "Secrets of Vulcan's Fury" clip that's been floating around (I rather like Shatner's moodier reading).
     
  15. JJohnson

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    That clip is amazing. It looks great. You did a really good job!
     
  16. BolianAuthor

    BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Rear Admiral

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    Aye, the credits look spot-on.
     
  17. TrekkieMonster

    TrekkieMonster Commodore Premium Member

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    That, was wonderful!!!

    Just reminds me of being a teenager in the '70s and scrabbling around anywhere I could for any scrap of information about the new show. I remember my family took a trip to the California Bay Area for Thanksgiving ... I think it was 1977 ... and I insisted on dragging my parents to the only "Star Trek Place" I knew of, which was in Berkley. I think it was called The Federation Trading Post. They had a painted looking poster of the Phase II Enterprise -- I think it was probably the one that's been posted on here many times. My jaw literally dropped. I was like a kid in a candy store, and got to talk to some of the folks who worked there about all the news and rumors and any scrap I could get hold of about the new series -- no, movie -- no, series -- no, movie.

    Ah, life before the interwebs ....

    Sorry if I digressed. You just took me back a few decades with this brilliant piece.

    Thanks, Dennis, as always! :bolian:
     
  18. Santaman

    Santaman Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Looks good! :techman:
     
  19. Sarvek

    Sarvek Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Great work Dennis. :techman::techman: You really make Star Trek: Phase II come to life.
     
  20. Sean_McCormick

    Sean_McCormick Captain Captain

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    ...and again, SONY got there first.