Feel free to be annoyed, but it wasn't directed at you. It was directed at those that jump into the Elite STFs on the weekend, to the point where (compared to the usual crowd on a weeknight) the average ability of the players goes down. Has nothing to do with learning curve, or the 'bowing down to ability' strawman you're putting together. I've got a job, a wife, other committments just like everyone else, and am hardly a hardcore gamer. I HAVE run the STFs a couple hundred times (at least) over the past couple years, though. Just seems that on the weekend, you get more people in the Elite STFs that aren't equipped right for it, haven't even played the NORMAL mode enough to understand the objectives, actively won't listen to the plan or participate in the chat channel, AFKs, or generally doesn't help out. If in the chat, we all agree to start on the left, don't go right and then start swearing in the chat, or not responding at all, failing it for all of us. I probably wasn't the most help my first couple runs, but by starting in Normal mode, learning how to do it, gearing up, and listening to people explain strategy, I got better. And then moved to Elite. With F2P, we've gotten more people doing that almost exactly backwards, and essentially just joining one of these to farm for gear (it's totally random, not based on score within the event, so just being IN means you can get the best stuff). Making honest mistakes is certainly acceptable. Not listening, actively going against the plan, or showing up without any of the needed gear/skills is less ok. Everyone was new once, willingness to help out and learn is fine. Showing up in an Elite mission without a clue, not helping (or actively hurting) is NOT. And that happens (in my experience) a lot more on the weekends. Not sure why you'd try and make a stink over this, though. At Lt. Cmdr, you're not even eligible to PLAY these things, so can't have much of a frame of reference for what we're talking about. If you were, you'd probably see what we're saying.