Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!)

Discussion in 'Trek Gaming' started by daedalus5, Sep 3, 2011.

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  1. Scout101

    Scout101 Admiral Admiral

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    Feel free to be annoyed, but it wasn't directed at you. It was directed at those that jump into the Elite STFs on the weekend, to the point where (compared to the usual crowd on a weeknight) the average ability of the players goes down.

    Has nothing to do with learning curve, or the 'bowing down to ability' strawman you're putting together. I've got a job, a wife, other committments just like everyone else, and am hardly a hardcore gamer. I HAVE run the STFs a couple hundred times (at least) over the past couple years, though.

    Just seems that on the weekend, you get more people in the Elite STFs that aren't equipped right for it, haven't even played the NORMAL mode enough to understand the objectives, actively won't listen to the plan or participate in the chat channel, AFKs, or generally doesn't help out. If in the chat, we all agree to start on the left, don't go right and then start swearing in the chat, or not responding at all, failing it for all of us. I probably wasn't the most help my first couple runs, but by starting in Normal mode, learning how to do it, gearing up, and listening to people explain strategy, I got better. And then moved to Elite. With F2P, we've gotten more people doing that almost exactly backwards, and essentially just joining one of these to farm for gear (it's totally random, not based on score within the event, so just being IN means you can get the best stuff).

    Making honest mistakes is certainly acceptable. Not listening, actively going against the plan, or showing up without any of the needed gear/skills is less ok. Everyone was new once, willingness to help out and learn is fine. Showing up in an Elite mission without a clue, not helping (or actively hurting) is NOT. And that happens (in my experience) a lot more on the weekends.

    Not sure why you'd try and make a stink over this, though. At Lt. Cmdr, you're not even eligible to PLAY these things, so can't have much of a frame of reference for what we're talking about. If you were, you'd probably see what we're saying.
     
  2. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It looks like the C-store problem has been fixed.
     
  3. hamudm

    hamudm Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I just started playing this on the weekend and for some reason, I'm unable to beam up from Vega Colony in the training mission. I just stand around like a jackass after disabling the Borg comm relay while everyone around me beams up. I think it's a glitch. I've thought about deleting my avatar and starting the game again, seeing as I'm only an hour into it, but I can't be arsed.

    Anyone else have this problem?
     
  4. Aeolusdallas

    Aeolusdallas Captain Captain

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    look at your journal you may have missed an objective
     
  5. intrinsical

    intrinsical Commodore Commodore

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    Its been a long time since I last did that mission, but if I remember correctly there are several more tasks to complete in a deeper section of the colony. Have a look at your journal or look for markers on your ground map (press"M").
     
  6. MikeS

    MikeS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I did not intend to "make a stink" and after reading your reply, I can agree with the points you make. You will agree that your first post was somewhat terse and lacking in depth as to your gripe? This is where my misunderstanding of your intentions came from.

    Thank-you for recognising that we all start somewhere and it takes time to learn in a game of this size. :bolian:
     
  7. Scout101

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    I didn't think the original comment NEEDED to be much deeper. If you'd played enough STFs with PUGs, you'd have seen why I was saying that (and agreeing with the previous poster that had just come out of a bad STF group). Hell, I'd just finished a fairly awful group myself. If you've never even PLAYED a STF, not sure why you'd go off on my 'gripe' in the first place. Not sure I agree that you didn't mean to make a stink though, after you took a few shots at me, implying I didn't have a real life, job, family, and that you bowed down to my superior gamesmanship. Odd way to jump if you weren't sure of my intention, and hadn't even had any experience in the thing we were complaining about. You missed the point and attacked ME over it, even though you weren't part of the original comment. Don't look to me to appologize like we both made a mistake...

    Again, because the rewards are (potentially) so good, and there's no minimum requirements to join the Elite missions, the weekends usually see a drop in team quality as more people that don't play much try to optimize their rewards by tagging along with people that have more experience. A little dead weight is fine, and if you learn from it, great. Prefer that you actually learn to play in Normal mode before jumping into Elite, but hey, it happens. When half your team is useless, or even worse, actively harmful, it's ok to be frustrated though...
     
  8. JRS

    JRS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Has anyone here linked/tried to link their PWE and Cryptic accounts yet:confused:?

    http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=570451

    Judging from the comments section, the linking may cause all sorts of problems:cardie:,
    so I am personally bit weary of trying it right now.
     
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  9. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Thankfully it seems to have gone well for me.
    I never wanted a PW account, and had to change my user name to timelord79 to make it fit with their name requirements.

    If I didn't have a lifetime account this would have been the moment I would have walked away for good...
     
  10. Scout101

    Scout101 Admiral Admiral

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    Other than not being able to keep my original name, no problems. Make sure to go in and get the 'reward' for switching over, located in the 'items' section of the C-Store. Oddly, not the legacy unlocks section where they always put these things. I didn't get anything particularly useful (yay points boost for a VA50 player! got a couple engine/aux boosts and a purple MK XI hand phaser as well), but worth grabbing i guess.

    Much ado about nothing, in the long run, but yet another half-assed effort from PWE/Cryptic. Lie about it, say you won't notice a change, then just dump something in there and don't respond to problems when it's half-tested. Little shit like not being able to use your names, not keeping posting history or join dates, no custom avatars, etc. You know, the stuff that should work by DEFAULT in a BBS system, and shouldn't have taken any effort. I'm sure they're "looking into it"... :rolleyes:
     
  11. Bird of Prey

    Bird of Prey Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Wow, so the official site has been changed and we are now being forced to change over to a PW account. From what I've read here and at the official forums, there are a lot of people who are not pleased with these changes. It looks like at some point, everyone will be forced to change over to a PW account, so may as well do it now and get the free rewards.
     
  12. Ruaidhri

    Ruaidhri Commodore Commodore

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    I created a PWE account and merged them without any problem. I wasn't going to do so until I read that it would eventually be forced on everyone, so I decided to just get it out of the way. Having to change display and account name was annoying, but I've never posted in their forums so the resetting of stats there was no skin off my back.

    That said, it was one of the most hamfisted changes I've seen a company make. I can't believe they didn't warn the user base that it was going to happen.

    Regarding the PUG issue above, I'd agree that the groups are lesser quality on the weekends, for understandable reasons. And I'm okay with that. There is very little real challenge in this game. Some of my most satisfying STFs were the ones that were successful even though mistakes were made, often by someone who didn't yet understand the method of beating the mission, and sometimes by a vet who hit the wrong button by accident and blew something up prematurely. Compensating for the miscues is fun to me. And sometime having to come out of your niche is a good thing. I feel a lot of satisfaction when I (in a fleet escort) am healing other people in an STF who are flying cruisers. Seriously, a lot of people newer to the game don't seem to know they can heal other teammates, and this is because STO does a poor on of educating a new player. I like helping them, far more constructively than many others do.

    The only time I get peeved in STFs is when you have someone intentionally being counterproductive or abusive to the other players. That shit gets old real fast. And refusing to heed honest and friendly advice. It's easy to spot the immature folks.
     
  13. JRS

    JRS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I merged also the accounts and it seems without problems. There was some chatter in-game that some ppl have actually lost one or two of their toons after the merging.
    Not sure why would that happen, though.
    I was not entirely happy to merge them either, but I guess one must go with the flow of the business:vulcan:
     
  14. syberghost

    syberghost Commander Red Shirt

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    Merging worked fine for me. I was happy to do it; I was one of those people whose account dated from back when the login and the display name were the same, and after they dumped the IRC channel they went back on their promise to change my login name and leave my display name untouched, so I had to live with that less-than-ideal security situation until this merger. My PW account has a totally different login.
     
  15. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I am still on the old account(asof Saturday), until forced to change.
     
  16. SilentP

    SilentP Commodore Commodore

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    Just did the change now, no problem so far it seems.
     
  17. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I was able to get by with just dropping the 2007 from my user name.

    I actually feel better about the change since i was able to get almost enough free C-points from the Netflix's trial offer to afford a VA ship.
     
  18. Jim Gamma

    Jim Gamma This space left blank intentionally. Premium Member

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    I am DEFINITELY not in favour of being unable to use capital letters in screennames. This is what causes "GrandAdmiralThrawn" for example to look like it could be Grandad Miral Thrawn.

    Oh well... display name changed to "tehibris". I want that T capitalised damnit!
     
  19. Briquettes

    Briquettes Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Meh. I just linked my account and don't see what all the fuss is over. All I lost was the capital B from my forum handle and an underscore from my account name. Never posted on the STO boards before so all the other issues don't affect me.
     
  20. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Looks like the user name remained the same in game...

    So now I have an Account Name, a user Name for the forum and Perect World in general and a user name in game...

    :wtf:
     
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