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Discussion in 'Trek Gaming' started by daedalus5, Sep 3, 2011.

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  1. Scout101

    Scout101 Admiral Admiral

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    thanks to the nerfing of crafting a while back, not a ton. can make a little money by making mid-level items and selling them, but anything high end costs dilithium in addition to the materials, so rarely worth it. EC are so easy to get, easier/cheaper to buy them outright on the exchange, usually

    They fill the bank slots that we don't have enough of quite well, though...
     
  2. Xhiandra

    Xhiandra Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Or you can sell them. No point hoarding them if you're not going to use them.
    You won't scan many anomalies in endgame, so the only Data Samples you'll get are from DOFF assignments, easily manageable to sell them as you get them.

    Then again, some Data Samples are worth so little...
     
  3. Briquettes

    Briquettes Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    ^Some are worth a lot though. The other day I sold a stack of 250 chronometric wave signatures for 975K EC. :D

    Also, if you want to hold on to them I believe I read that data samples are going to be fodder for starbase projects.
     
  4. Xhiandra

    Xhiandra Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    That's only a 3900 unit price, nothing monstrous.
    But it shows one thing: the market fluctuates a lot in this game; not only for data samples but they're a good example.
     
  5. Briquettes

    Briquettes Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    True, but that's still more than some particle traces. I sure do miss the days when I could sell certain traces for more than a million a piece.
     
  6. Praetor Adele

    Praetor Adele Commodore Commodore

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    I don't suppose anyone wants or knows someone who wants a D'kora for a Jem'hadar attack ship, eh?
     
  7. intrinsical

    intrinsical Commodore Commodore

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    Given their prices on the Exchange, I'm sure lots of people want them.
     
  8. intrinsical

    intrinsical Commodore Commodore

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    I'm sorry, I was just in an EliteSTF KASE group from hell and I need to rant.

    /rant on

    Before the fight began, the group leader asked "I'll handle right, who will handle left?". Someone volunteered to handle left probes. Now we all presumed he meant he'll handle the right probes. Never in a million years did I imagine he actually meant he's taking down right transformers by himself and not touching the right probes.

    At any rate, I was still oblivious to this as I was busy taking down left transformers with everyone else. Every time he asked who's handling right probes, I spun around and saw a ship on the far right side and assumed that ship was handling the probes so I said nothing. I never realized it was his ship and he does not want to clear the probes. I only took notice when the group leader yelled, "SOMEONE HELP ME WITH RIGHT PROBES". I spun around and this time I saw a Borg cube on the far right side with explosions so I assumed he accidentally spawned the cube and couldn't handle the probes. So I said "omw" and went over to clear the probes for him. And as a helpful gesture I destroyed the offensive cube before going back to clearing transformers on the left side.

    Next thing I know, group leader's screaming at me, saying how its my responsibility to clear right probes and not his just because because I said "omw". Naturally, I defended my actions as I never volunteered to handle right probes. And this guy has the gall to retort that he's had enough of my excuses and tells the EliteSTF channel to put me on ignore!

    On top of that, no one in the group had good dps. They just kept blowing up when Donatra attacked them. Several times, I was the only ship left attacking Donatra's ship. It took 10 minutes to bring Donatra's ship down and I was pretty amazed my Prometheus escort only blew up twice.

    /rant off
     
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  9. Xhiandra

    Xhiandra Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Couldn't he take both probes and Generators/Cube/Transformer?
    It's a monumental waste to have someone handle only probes.

    That said, not very nice (or efficient) to leave someone alone on the right side. A 3/2 split would've been better.

    Surviving Donatra is mostly a matter of:
    - Timing Evasive Maneuvers to avoid the Thalaron burst. Very easy.
    - Timing Brace for Impact to deal with her Torpedo Spread. First one is easy when you're used to it, but after that it involves some guesswork.
    - A bit of luck if on an Escort. A Torp Spread can do quite a bit of damage, even with BFI and then she can wear you down with regular attacks while your heals are on cooldown, so you're basically hoping she cloaks.


    I'm in a terrible ISE group atm.
    Not knowing the 10% thing, I'm fine with.
    Not being willing to apply it, I'm fine with.
    Rainbows, I'm fine with.
    Unrepaired injuries... somewhat annoying, but no huge deal.

    But this group applied the 10% thing relatively well and then just targetted the normal Spheres that pop near the Transformer, completely missing the point of the 10% rule.
    When questionned about why they did that, one of them just insults me in very broken english.
    That infuriates me. Especially the broken english part, because it just tells you the individual doesn't have the cognitive capacity to understand the irony of insulting other people's intelligence in broken english.

    Then again, when I saw a Ship spelled in alternate caps (the "USS DeVaStAToR"), I should've expected such behaviour.
     
  10. Scout101

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    Playing the STFs on the weekend is dicey, at best. Amateur hour...
     
  11. Rocketeer

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    Yeah, I've seen an increase in the number of assholes in the game (present company excluded...).

    I would suggest doing something else in the game until you find a good group to run the STFs. You could volunteer to lead some noobs on the lower missions. I see a lot of players that really have no clue what to do. I've been running the Starbase 24 instance as I've been updating weapons and skills and it amazes me that despite having cockeyed setups at times, that I usually walk away with the choice rewards. So there is obviously a lot of opportunities to provide guidance to the newer players.

    If gaming is causing you bad stress, you need to re-evaluate the situation. Find a way to make it fun. :techman:



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  12. intrinsical

    intrinsical Commodore Commodore

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    One thing I did not say was that I may know this person by reputation from a long long time ago. Basically before there was Leeroy from WoW, there was Skeeter from EQ. Where Leeroy was famous for causing a single spectacular accident in WoW, Skeeter was infamous for intentionally causing a chain of incidents in EverQuest. And this guy's name was Skeeter. Now I have no proof he's the same person, but given his actions I have to admit they may very well be one and the same.

    No, I am mostly angry with myself for choosing to group up with a potential troublemaker I.
     
  13. Bird of Prey

    Bird of Prey Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    975K EC? Sweet !! I've been trying to increase my EC count by making and selling the prototype torpedo and turrett platforms. Between those and the Tour the Galaxy, I've made well over 5 million EC in just over a week.

    There are special DOFF assignments that you can get from your Science officer on your ship (visit your bridge and go to the science lab). You can turn in data samples for 250 dilithium and particle traces for 500 dilithium. Each of these mission require about 20 of each type of sample.

    Question about the Thunderchild and Armitage - can you use the both the Phaser and Photon Torpedo Point Defense System on the same ship?
     
  14. Captain_Amasov

    Captain_Amasov Captain Captain

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    Yes you can use both the Phaser and Photon Torpedo Point Defense System on the same ship, as long as that ship happens to be the Armitage, because the torpedo defense system can only be used on that class.
     
  15. Bird of Prey

    Bird of Prey Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Thanks !! That's just what I wanted to hear, because I will be picking up the Armitage. :bolian:
     
  16. Rocketeer

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    Wow, thanks for reminding me to check interior locations for DOFF assignments.

    Will dilithium be used in the Starbase construction? I have a small (very small) stash.
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  17. Squiggy

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  18. Xhiandra

    Xhiandra Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I'm at a bit of a loss over the conflicting info this game gives sometimes:
    Weapons are listed with a DPV value and a DPS value.
    From these, it's easy to determine their delay (DPS/DPV=T(s)):
    - Turrets: .75s.
    - Arrays : 1.25s.
    - Cannons: .75s.
    - Torpedoes: from 6.5s to 60s, depending on type.
    - DBBs: 1.25s.
    - DCs: .75s.
    - DHCs: 1.5s. (twice the delay of DCs for twice the damage)

    Nevermind, silly me made a silly mistake. Leaving the delays because it's handy to have a list like that for calculations.

    Example, added damage from [Borg] procs:

    Photon Torp: 1000 DPV; 1000/6.5=~153.85 DPS.
    Quantum/Plasma Torp: 1000 DPV; 1000/8.5=~117.65 DPS.
    Turrets, Cannons, DCs: 7.5*1000/100=75 DPV; 75/.75=100 DPS.
    Chroniton/Transphasic Torp: 1000 DPV; 1000/10.5=~95.24 DPS.
    Arrays, DBBs: 7.5*1000/100=75 DPV; 75/1.25=60 DPS.
    DHCs: 7.5*1000/100=75 DPV; 75/1.5=50 DPS.
    Tricobalt Torp: 1000 DPV; 1000/60=~16.67 DPS.
     
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  19. MikeS

    MikeS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    This kind of comment annoys me. We all have to start somewhere. There is alot to learn in this game and I have only been playing sporadically for a few weeks reaching Lieutenant Commander and receiving a Constitution II in the process.

    This is the reason I've steered clear of interacting with "Fleet missions" yet.

    We that have real lives to lead with work and family to fill our weeks bow down to your superior gamesmanship.
     
  20. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well they changed the website and forced Cryptic and Perfect World account integration and apparently everything has gone to hell.

    You can't even get C-points right now.

    On the bright side my Gold account looks way better than a silver account right now :)
     
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