Star Trek Needs a Gay Character and Here’s How to Do It

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Shaka Zulu, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    Has anyone asked Zachary Quinto this question? What does he think about how/if it should be done? Someone should ask him on Twitter or something.
     
  2. Dream

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    They'll never make Spock gay though.
     
  3. sonak

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    if they do it now they really CAN'T make a big deal about it. That time has long since past, you can't awkwardly pat yourself on the back in a situation where you're years behind the times.
     
  4. Sector 7

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    True. The time for Star Trek to be cutting edge on this issue passed long ago. However, it is not too late for our beloved franchise about the future to catch up to the present.:techman:
     
  5. sttngfan1701d

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    I know. But I'm interested in hearing what he thinks at least.

    In my opinion it's tokenism. It smacks of an agenda. If you must include it, show it in passing, don't make a big deal of it, unless there's a Captain Jack-type character to pull it off.
     
  6. Coloratura

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    Well, I was being a touch tongue-in-cheek, what with the "statistically" part, but yeah, I get what you're saying. My point was that being gay doesn't make you stand out amongst the crowd just because you're gay. You would have to do something different, like in your example, to show that you're not Sam or Sally Straight Person. Your example is nice and subtle, and I like it.
     
  7. Dream

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    Zachary Quinto matter of factly mentioned he was gay in a magazine interview. There was no huge announcement from him. I can see him thinking it was no big deal if they turned Spock gay.

    Some Trek fans might might have their brains explode at the change though.:)
     
  8. sttngfan1701d

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    I don't mean Spock, I mean this topic of whether/how Star Trek should have a gay character.
     
  9. Maurice

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    You know how other shows do it? They just have characters who are gay. No big deal is usually made about it. I can't believe how many knots some people tie themselves into to argue "if" it's a good idea or "how".
     
  10. Sigokat

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    Mirror Kira was Bi-Sexual.
     
  11. donners22

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    Sex for her was more about power and narcissism. Big difference to a character having a loving relationship with a person of the same sex.
     
  12. BillJ

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    Or maybe to some it really "doesn't matter". I wouldn't be offended if there was a gay character on Star Trek, I'm not offended that there isn't. For the simple fact that I don't watch Trek for relationship drama or get wrapped up in which character is sleeping with which character.

    At some point, live-action Trek will include a gay character and for me it simply won't matter as long as the character is well written. Trek Literature has had gay characters for, at least, a decade now (possibly closer to two). Admiral Krell, the gay Klingon was a well-written character and for me that ranks far above who he's screwing/who he's living with in a fictional reality. YMMV.
     
  13. Sigokat

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    True. I was just pointing out that there was an openly bi-sexual character on the show, but you are right about the difference between her and a real loving relationship. :mallory:
     
  14. DarthTom

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    I think it would be awesome if Abrams made Sulu gay, especially since Takei is gay in real life.
     
  15. Kruezerman

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    Speaking as a gay (bisexual) man, I think it'd be great to have gay characters in Trek, but don't shove it in my face. Make it subtle as if it were, I don't know, normal.

    Doctor Who has a tendency of making a good deal of it's characters gay for no reason at all.
     
  16. Jeyl

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    Oh, come now. That happily married old couple in gridlock was a nice addition.
     
  17. Kruezerman

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    It was! But now it seems that everybody and their mother is gay!
     
  18. HaventGotALife

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    I have said for years they should have a gay character and not make a big deal about it. For instance, do the marriage scene and storyline from "Balance of Terror" only have them be a gay couple. Star Trek should at least mention it because it's not the 1960s anymore and it seems to me that everyone is straight.
     
  19. HaventGotALife

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    As a pansexual man, I agree. It has to be subtle in the universe or the utopia we've created will show very little progress from today to then. Don't pander to me, just make it part of the mosaic.
     
  20. -Brett-

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    I'd object to Sulu being retconned as gay just because it perpetuates the stereotype of Trekkies being unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality.
     

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