STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.7%
  2. A

    20.7%
  3. A-

    13.1%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    8.0%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    5.4%
  8. C

    5.1%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. OneBuckFilms

    OneBuckFilms Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Since the look of Klingons, in general, is well established, they would be the same in the Alternate Reality as the Prime Reality.

    After all, they certainly existed prior to 2233.04.

    I like his approach.
     
  2. indranee

    indranee Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I understand what you're saying but IMO it's a solid ideal to reach for. I really can't find fault with people who want to inculcate it into their lives.

    And I called you ignorant because your post reeked of it. IDIC the term may be fictional but the idea behind it is not.
     
  3. Mach5

    Mach5 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Same goes for the Romulans, yet Nero and his gang don't exactly look like those seen in TOS or TNG.
     
  4. Ryan8bit

    Ryan8bit Commodore Commodore

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    The problem is that people are incorporating something twisted and strange and not at all what you think it is. I've seen one other poster play the IDIC card, but basically when it pertains to when people disagree with what he likes, and then he turns around and speaks of what he dislikes. That really makes no sense to me. It would make more sense to me that instead of worshiping a TV show's dogma and using it as any kind of basis for philosophy that one should first start with the basics like not being a hypocrite. Any one who throws out any claims of IDIC is like the one who throws the first stone...

    Perhaps you already had the scent on your nose. There was nothing ignorant about it.
     
  5. marksound

    marksound Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Here's an example of IDIC, as it should be, in action:

    "Dude, whatever." :lol:
     
  6. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    Yep. This a thousand times. I know enough folks who wasted money on a useless degree to end up in a trade that pays the rent and then some. And who are very happy. AND realized just how much time and money they wasted following a course expected of them by society of the "right" way of growing up and pursuing a career.

    There are better ways, and much less costly ways as well.

    As far as Kirk's advancement in Starfleet in the JJverse, I pose this: Kirk is a genius. Kirk is a natural leader. He's the 'Good Will Hunting' of Star Trek. End of story.
     
  7. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Captain Captain

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    I guess in all the hubub of folks wanting to pick apart the first movie, they forget that Pike tells Kirk that his aptitude scores are off the charts and asks him if he likes, "being the only genius-level repeat offender in the Midwest?"
     
  8. OneBuckFilms

    OneBuckFilms Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    They pretty much look like bald, working-class vulcans to me. Oh, and they have tattoos.

    Since we never saw working class Romulan oil rig workers prior to this, there was nothing established to say that they did not exist in the Empire.

    Fundamentally, they were tweaked TOS Romulans (Humans with Volcan-like features, really).

    Well within previously established possibilities.
     
  9. GMDreia

    GMDreia Commander Red Shirt

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    If there weren't ridgeless Romulans, then Spock wouldn't have been able to hide within Romulan society.

    And who is to say that Star Trek aliens don't have regional/racial differences like humans do. We could go as far as to say that they even have racism like humans do, and that there is social stratification based upon race. Maybe there were ridged Romulans in the upper echelons the whole time, and we never saw them.

    Also, to me, the Abrams Romulans still looked like they had ridges, Abrams had just toned the look down quite a bit and brought them to something midway between TOS and TNG (like he seems to have done with Klingons). They were still recognizably romulan to me. I can't wait to see what he does with other Trek races (especially Andorians ;))
     
  10. DarthTom

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    Or, JJ recently watched the film Enemy Mine and really liked the way Drac looked. Or the Drac species mated with the Klingons. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, there's no real resemblance but that's a nice lift from AICN.
     
  12. ConRefit79

    ConRefit79 Captain Captain

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    Cadet Wesley Crusher promoted to Captain is believable to?????????
     
  13. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Captain Captain

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    When did Wesley show any form of leadership ability? He was a genius, yes, but showed no true focus nor any real ability to be a ship's Captain (well, if you don't count what happened in "The Naked Now")
     
  14. SeerSGB

    SeerSGB Admiral Admiral

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    The fact that Starfleet mobilized the cadets and crewed the ships in orbit with largely (or at least implied to be) cadet crew leads me to think that whatever has the rest of the fleet tied up is leaving them shorthanded. Kirk's promotion to Captain (likely shoved through by Pike) could be part PR movie (reward the man that saved the planet), and part "We'll he can keep the chair warm till we find someone better." The last three years could have been the Enterprise more or less shaking-out and on softball sort of missions to see if Kirk was up to the job.
     
  15. BillJ

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    One was a sixteen-year old boy, the other was a twenty-five year old man. I'd say they're apples and oranges from a maturity aspect.
     
  16. SeerSGB

    SeerSGB Admiral Admiral

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    Just an aside: I've not had this much fun with the run up to a Trek movie in ages. Feels good to get some of the old vibe back.
     
  17. Flake

    Flake Commodore Commodore

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    Wesley Crusher was the Captain on the second episode of TNG!
     
  18. thumbtack

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    Perhaps Rotten Tomatoes felt it necessary to move the goal posts to prevent a 100. All of the major critics have indicated their reviews will be positive. We should see those soon.
     
  19. drumvan

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  20. Mach5

    Mach5 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Maybe you should have another look.

    Those actors wore shitloads of prosthetics, and not just on their ears.
     

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