STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.7%
  2. A

    20.7%
  3. A-

    13.1%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    8.0%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    5.4%
  8. C

    5.1%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. Anduril

    Anduril Nose down. Throttle up. Premium Member

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    How could you not see that coming?
     
  2. trevanian

    trevanian Rear Admiral

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    Abso-friggin-lutely. I'm on a deadline that doesn't let me go to sleep till I have the draft down tonight, and I've got two other ones I need to jump right into, so a few days of reflection will do wonders for me, I'm sure.
     
  3. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Ah. Locutus agrees with me. :techman:

    *pause*

    Oh my God. Locutus agrees with me. :eek: :lol:
     
  4. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I won't dignify this with a response beyond as I type this I'm looking at my entertainment shelf with my copy of Star Trek 2009 (which I've seen numerous times), Star Trek: The Video Game (set in the Abramsverse) and my Abramsverse Captain Kirk action figure.

    So I guess I am a 'one-eyed fan'. Whatever the hell that is...

    EDIT: Just a note. The last main Trek movie villain played by a non-white actor was Khan. Not a very good track record for a franchise that supposedly prides itself on diversity.
     
  5. throwback

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    Khan is a region specific title and name.

    In the Middle Ages, the title was used by those who led a Mongol, a Tartar, or a Turkish tribe. Mongols were native to Mongolia, in East Asia. Tartar were native to west-central Russia, Siberia, and central Asia. Turkish were native to Turkey.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_(title)

    The name Khan is used by those who lived in Central and Western Asia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_(surname)

    So, in summation, Khan is a Asian word.

    I understand the sensitivity that some would have in portraying Khan by a person of Asia. However, considering the vast region of Asia that Khan is used in, there are ways I think that this issue could be resolved so that an Asian actor could portray Khan.

    Here is a man from Pakistan who has the last name of Khan. He is named Imran Khan, and his occupation is politician.

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  6. Melakon

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    I probably did read your theory and it stayed in the subconscious. Apologies. ;)
     
  7. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    There's no "issue" to be resolved - the movie has been made; Khan is played by Benedict Cumberbatch.
     
  8. Deck 1 - Bridge

    Deck 1 - Bridge Lieutenant Junior Grade

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    'I wont dignify this with a response' before going on to give a response.
     
  9. Hartzilla2007

    Hartzilla2007 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Pretty much.
     
  10. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Damn. I was really hoping to get a definition of "one-eyed fan". Am I a "one-eyed fan" because I'm blind in one-eye in real life?
     
  11. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Perhaps it's intended to be akin to a one-eyed trouser snake? :lol:
     
  12. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    :guffaw:
     
  13. thumbtack

    thumbtack Commodore Commodore

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    I've been watching the nerdrage being flung at Iron Man 3 on two other sites, as the film stands at 93 on RT. Bizarre.

    :guffaw: I think the Khan people have done a wonderful job of not gloating. Imagine what this thread would be like had Cumberbatch turned out to not be a canon violation.
     
  14. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Footy slang, apparently, and not especially accurate here, but in effect he's saying that you're heavily biased in favor of Abrams and Abrams Trek*. A "one-eyed fan" would be the guy who demands the visiting team be penalized for any and all offenses while at the same time overlooking any offenses committed by the home team. Or something like that.


    * Yes, that's funny, isn't it?
     
  15. Ancient Mariner

    Ancient Mariner Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Or is it a reference to the old proverb (adage? saying? fallacy?) that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed fan is Khan?
     
  16. Kruezerman

    Kruezerman Commodore Commodore

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    Are you really?
     
  17. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yup. Blind in the left eye since birth. :techman:
     
  18. Ancient Mariner

    Ancient Mariner Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Chekov's gun, man. It's been loaded. It needs to be fired.
     
  19. Kruezerman

    Kruezerman Commodore Commodore

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    Huh, you learn something new everyday. :techman:
     
  20. Deck 1 - Bridge

    Deck 1 - Bridge Lieutenant Junior Grade

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    IF that's the case, and my comment about being a one eyed fan offended, then I apologise. It was offered in the context that some fans fail to see a bigger picture, a wider picture.

    That said, BillJ, I think youre pretty lame to come back with the old 'I'm a disabled, black, one legged lesbian' defence to avoid discussing things properly.

    One presumes you'll be giving the 3D showing a miss then. :rolleyes: