Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.
How could you not see that coming?
Abso-friggin-lutely. I'm on a deadline that doesn't let me go to sleep till I have the draft down tonight, and I've got two other ones I need to jump right into, so a few days of reflection will do wonders for me, I'm sure.
Ah. Locutus agrees with me.
Oh my God. Locutus agrees with me.
I won't dignify this with a response beyond as I type this I'm looking at my entertainment shelf with my copy of Star Trek 2009 (which I've seen numerous times), Star Trek: The Video Game (set in the Abramsverse) and my Abramsverse Captain Kirk action figure.
So I guess I am a 'one-eyed fan'. Whatever the hell that is...
EDIT: Just a note. The last main Trek movie villain played by a non-white actor was Khan. Not a very good track record for a franchise that supposedly prides itself on diversity.
Khan is a region specific title and name.
In the Middle Ages, the title was used by those who led a Mongol, a Tartar, or a Turkish tribe. Mongols were native to Mongolia, in East Asia. Tartar were native to west-central Russia, Siberia, and central Asia. Turkish were native to Turkey.
The name Khan is used by those who lived in Central and Western Asia.
So, in summation, Khan is a Asian word.
I understand the sensitivity that some would have in portraying Khan by a person of Asia. However, considering the vast region of Asia that Khan is used in, there are ways I think that this issue could be resolved so that an Asian actor could portray Khan.
Here is a man from Pakistan who has the last name of Khan. He is named Imran Khan, and his occupation is politician.
I probably did read your theory and it stayed in the subconscious. Apologies.
There's no "issue" to be resolved - the movie has been made; Khan is played by Benedict Cumberbatch.
'I wont dignify this with a response' before going on to give a response.
Damn. I was really hoping to get a definition of "one-eyed fan". Am I a "one-eyed fan" because I'm blind in one-eye in real life?
Perhaps it's intended to be akin to a one-eyed trouser snake?
I've been watching the nerdrage being flung at Iron Man 3 on two other sites, as the film stands at 93 on RT. Bizarre.
I think the Khan people have done a wonderful job of not gloating. Imagine what this thread would be like had Cumberbatch turned out to not be a canon violation.
Footy slang, apparently, and not especially accurate here, but in effect he's saying that you're heavily biased in favor of Abrams and Abrams Trek*. A "one-eyed fan" would be the guy who demands the visiting team be penalized for any and all offenses while at the same time overlooking any offenses committed by the home team. Or something like that.
* Yes, that's funny, isn't it?
Or is it a reference to the old proverb (adage? saying? fallacy?) that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed fan is Khan?
Are you really?
Yup. Blind in the left eye since birth.
Chekov's gun, man. It's been loaded. It needs to be fired.
Huh, you learn something new everyday.
IF that's the case, and my comment about being a one eyed fan offended, then I apologise. It was offered in the context that some fans fail to see a bigger picture, a wider picture.
That said, BillJ, I think youre pretty lame to come back with the old 'I'm a disabled, black, one legged lesbian' defence to avoid discussing things properly.
One presumes you'll be giving the 3D showing a miss then.
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