STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.7%
  2. A

    20.7%
  3. A-

    13.1%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    8.0%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    5.4%
  8. C

    5.1%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Exactly! That's what I keep telling people. The engine room of a warp-capable starship should look like a brewery made decades ago. ;)
     
  2. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    I prefer it to the Dairy Queen neon light TNG engineering TV and movie sets.

    ETA - And the new STiD engineering set they borrowed from that laser laboratory - Fucking Awesome looking!

    IMO of course...
     
  3. Belz...

    Belz... Commodore Commodore

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    I hope you're joking. No story is truly original.

    You'd be amazed how little industrial machinery has changed, aesthetically speaking, in the last five decades. When talking about a piece of hardware that is all function and no style, you expect it to look the way it's always looked.
     
  4. TommyW

    TommyW Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Indeed. In another 200 years they'll still be saying "hell, was this filmed in a brewery made decades ago?" :lol:
     
  5. Casas9425

    Casas9425 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    There isn't going to be an audio commentary on the blu ray?
     
  6. Hober Mallow

    Hober Mallow Commodore Commodore

    Also crap.
     
  7. Belz...

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    Not my question.
     
  8. energize6

    energize6 Ensign Newbie

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    I don't know if it's already been asked but at the beginning of the movie, if they didn't want to get the Enterprise noticed, how did they get in the water in the first place?
     
  9. King Daniel Beyond

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    Scotty says, "We've been down here since last night" so I figure they landed under the cover of darkness. And probably several miles further out.
     
  10. Noname Given

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    So, I suppose ST:TMP (being unoriginal as it was a remake of the perevious episode "The Changeling"; as well as being full of p[lot holes) "wasn't Star Trek" either? :eek:;)
     
  11. energize6

    energize6 Ensign Newbie

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    Seems hard to believe no one would hear it, though. Thanks for the answer.
     
  12. Set Harth

    Set Harth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Here's a question that may have been answered already.

    Did Mudd's ship have warp drive? If not, how did it get from "the edge of the Neutral Zone" to Kronos?

    Or is the edge of the Neutral Zone somehow at sublight distance from Kronos?
     
  13. King Daniel Beyond

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    I assume it had warp drive. And that it's the same ship from "Mudd's Women"
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Gep Malakai

    Gep Malakai Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Oh, wow. That's actually kind of brilliant, if it was intentional.
     
  15. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

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    In it's day that's exactly what was said. Extremely confusing for this then-newbie enthusiastic fan.
     
  16. King Daniel Beyond

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    I'm sure it was. ID was by far the fanwankiest Trek film ever. I can picture Harry Mudd piloting away from the Enterprise, the women sat in the back room where Cupcake and whateverhisnamewas were during the chase on Kronos.
     
  17. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

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    Although readers of "Countdown to Darkness" know that the ship had passed to Mudd's daughter, and it had been used in the incident with April. :cool:
     
  18. trevanian

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    Well, if you peeled the bad art direction & moronic splitfocus diopters off TMP it was still something resembling TREK underneath, just that the characters were in a different place in their lives.

    But if you stopped aiming every light at the camera in the Abrams, and also discarded the ludicrous brewery and the rest of the contemporary welds, you'd STILL have something that didn't resemble trek underneath.

    So I would not concur.
     
  19. marksound

    marksound Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Filmmaking is art.

    Those who produce the films we pay our hard earned money to see make artistic decisions all the time, from start to finish. If you don't like their choices, fine.

    What artistic choices would you have made if you were making films in the 1970s? In the 1980s? The 90s, or 2000s, or today?

    I see things in movies that I wouldn't do the same way, but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate the choices that were made in the process of putting a film together.

    It's easy to criticize. Not so easy to do.
     
  20. BillJ

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    Looked and felt like Trek to me. :shrug: