STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.7%
  2. A

    20.7%
  3. A-

    13.1%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    8.0%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    5.4%
  8. C

    5.1%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    I don't think having Alice Eve in her underwear was anymore unkind to women than having Chris Pine in his was unkind to men. I don't think the human body is something we should run and hide from. :shrug:
     
  2. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The reference to softcore porn was not about how much skin is being shown. It was about the type of film making JJ is engaging in these scenes. It serves no purpose in the story, therefore, we are just looking at her like a piece of meat. Therefore, we are engaging in filmmaking meant to make to make us excited. Hence, softcore porn.

    It isn't the amount of nudity, it is the useless, gratuitous shot that does not build character, it does not move the story along, it does nothing for themes of the movie. It is just meant for little 12-year-old boys to pleasure themselves.
     
  3. marksound

    marksound Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I haven't seen the movie yet, but if Alice Eve is naked in it, I'm leaving work and going right now!

    Seriously, there are Victoria's Secret commercials on US broadcast tv that are more revealing than that clip. :rolleyes:
     
  4. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    So a woman changing clothes during a conversation equates to softcore porn in your world? What kind of spastic convulsions did you have when you could see Troi's nipples through her shear nightgown in The Price? :eek:
     
  5. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Thanks for twisting my words, this is the third correction. 180 million dollars is serious money. If JJ cares about his craft, if he wishes for another story to tell, he needs this movie to be taken seriously by the general public. Thanks again!
     
  6. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I really see no point discussing the objectification of women in the entertainment industry on a message board that has repeatedly failed to get rid of Babe of the Week threads, the culmination of sexism around here.
     
  7. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    The women here are more than welcome to start a 'Dude of the Week' thread.
     
  8. Dream

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    'Dude of the Week' threads were actually attempted a while back, but they died off because of a lack of interest. :lol:
     
  9. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Fair enough. But the freedom exists to ogle men the same way women are ogled. :techman:
     
  10. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Re: Alice Eve in her undies

    Somewhere Gene Roddenberry has a huge fucking smile on his face about it.
     
  11. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah because two wrongs make a right.
     
  12. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Why is it wrong to admire a beautiful person, male or female?
     
  13. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Fair enough. Say no more.

    Assuming that this is anything other than the excitement of having found an objection that might actually have a chance of winding folks up around here. :lol:
     
  14. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Co-sign. Let's start giving men anorexia and photoshopping to inescapably small sizes, and see what we think about the blatant "well, they can do it to men, too" bull. Men want what they see in the magazines, and so do women. Having this standard of beauty is killing little girls. But JJ isn't responsible for any of that. He's just feasting on it. Star Trek should be better than that, and it never has been.
     
  15. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    :rolleyes:

    It's really all I got. Of course it's all Hollywood's and men's fault. The parents never factor into the equation of a little girl having a healthy body image.
     
  16. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Because your girlfriend wants to look like that, can't, and she's going to kill herself trying to look like that. Because the standard of beauty is not realistic. What do I mean? Photoshop. As Cindy Crawford says "I wish I looked like Cindy Crawford, too." Because of how much time and energy goes into each photograph for it to be right. Because women compare themselves to that image, that isn't really what the woman on the cover looks like.

    It takes the thoughts and feelings and worth out of the woman and says "As long as you look like this, you can get whatever you want." That's all that matters.

    Do you ever stop to think: What is she thinking about in that picture? What is the picture trying to tell me? Or are you just glancing over the pretty parts?
     
  17. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    Why are you so interested in how 12 year old boys pleasure themselves?
     
  18. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    If that's not a personal attack, I don't know what is.
     
  19. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Take a deep breath. Let it out slowly. Repeat.
     
  20. Ryan8bit

    Ryan8bit Commodore Commodore

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    Man, when I was 12 I think that episode aired where Crusher and Troi were doing stretches in spandex. Mmm.

    Wait, what was this thread about again?