STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.7%
  2. A

    20.7%
  3. A-

    13.1%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    8.0%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    5.4%
  8. C

    5.1%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I don't even count it as a molehill compared to what Trek has given us in the past.
     
  2. Admiral Buzzkill

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    It's got Viagra beat.

    So to speak.
     
  3. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    Ha! :D

    Anyhoo, I expect people to always make big issues out of non-existent ones. Star Trek has taken advantage of sexual opportunity as any other genre franchise, so this is nothing new. As I mentioned earlier, compared to some of the outfits William Ware Theiss has displayed on always lovely ladies in the original series (and TNG), underwear is extremely tame.

    There have been times when the men have been made into meat racks (though it is certainly more rare). I wonder how often she complained about those incidents?
     
  4. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    There is no such thing when it comes to sexism.
     
  5. Admiral Buzzkill

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  6. SalvorHardin

    SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I like the io9 article.
    Let's complain about the underwear shot but let's also plaster it at the top of the article and the thumbnail to get those views.
     
  7. Belz...

    Belz... Commodore Commodore

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    Well, no, because it seems like you're answering my post but I don't know how that connects to it.
     
  8. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    No. Just because my post follows yours doesn't mean I'm addressing you. I simply made a declaration.
     
  9. Agent Richard07

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    The Alice Eve shot was "blink or you'll miss it". If you looked away for a second or sneezed, you would have missed it.
     
  10. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    But somewhere on celluloid, her boobies are naked under that bra!

    WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! :wah:

    I wonder if anyone has asked Alice Eve her opinion on the matter? It is, after all, her body, and it was her choice to make.
     
  11. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    My memory isn't short. This is not 20 years ago or 10 years ago. This is today, and today, he put a naked body in there for NO PURPOSE than to show her off. It served nothing in the story. I complained about Uhura last time around, and I complain about this as well. It's insulting to the movie franchise that they have to stoop this low. It's insulting to the audience, to women, to her specifically, and it is BAD FILM MAKING. He wasted a shot. He wasted a shot in a 180 million dollar movie. He had themes and characters to build, but no, we need a little T&A. It's the kind of hogwash you find in softcore porn, not a movie that wishes to be taken seriously.
     
  12. Dream

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    Alice Eve has been naked on film before. I doubt she cares about having to show off her underwear in the movie.

    Besides, I thought Kirk being shirtless being in bed with two alien women was more scandalous (implying a three way). It was also ridiculous that they both were wearing bras. Talking about unrealistic! :lol:
     
  13. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Oh my God. Do people actually read what they post before hitting 'Submit Reply'? Did people bitch and moan about scantily clad women in the first and third Iron Man movies? Did they bitch this much about Scarlett Johansson's skin tight, leather clad get-up in The Avengers? Did they bitch this much about seeing Chris Pine in his underwear in both Trek movies?

    Are we this juvenile that we think seeing someone in their underwear somehow demeans them? Besides neither Alice Eve nor Chris Pine have anything I haven't seen before.

    "Won't someone please think of the children!!!" :guffaw:

    It's, frankly, irritating that we have this cadre of fans who keep saying Trek is this progressive light leading the masses towards the promised land and that J.J. Abrams has somehow perverted it, yet ignoring everything that has taken place in the franchise up to the point he took over.
     
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  14. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    If that's what you're finding in softcore porn, you're watching the wrong goddamned kind of softcore porn.

    In my world, we call what you saw Alice Eve wearing, "an underwear ad," and you can find them in all the adult gentleman's magazines, like a K-mart flyer, or on a billboard.
     
  15. Dream

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    Her underwear isn't even that revealing. I've seen women wearing much more skimpy underwear in ads on the internet and also magazines.
     
  16. Mad Jack Wolfe

    Mad Jack Wolfe Commander Red Shirt

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    Holy crap, people are getting bent out of shape over this?? I've seem more revealing stuff on a public beach. Perhaps I should be more outraged, and go yelling up and down the beach about "teh poor childrenz!" like some crazed weasel.

    Nah, I'd rather sip a margarita and enjoy the show. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Belz...

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    I know. I was just not sure.

    "Naked" ?

    Or also in real life.
     
  18. HaventGotALife

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    I never saw Avengers or Iron Man. Talk about jumping to conclusions. No, I haven't seen the films. No, I don't think (and have stated many times in many places) that Star Trek is kind to women, pre-JJ Trek. It's not an excuse to continue the bad tradition.
     
  19. BillJ

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    All I know is that I thought I'd seen every episode of Star Trek and its spin-offs. But apparently there is this romanticized version that I've completely missed where warp speeds are consistent, women never wore skimpy outfits and no plot-holes ever existed. :eek:
     
  20. Admiral Buzzkill

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    "A movie that wishes to be taken seriously?"

    Really?

    How seriously does this movie wish to be taken? By whom?

    Did earlier Trek movies wish to be taken seriously? Did any succeed? Did they make their mamas proud?