STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 18, 2013.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    18.7%
  2. A

    20.7%
  3. A-

    13.1%
  4. B+

    11.1%
  5. B

    8.0%
  6. B-

    4.2%
  7. C+

    5.4%
  8. C

    5.1%
  9. C-

    3.5%
  10. D+

    1.5%
  11. D

    1.6%
  12. D-

    1.3%
  13. F

    5.7%
  1. throwback

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    There were a lot of strange craft flying in San Francisco and London. Before the big chase between Khan and Spock, there was that weird vehicle that looked like a flea lifting off the ground.
     
  2. Therin of Andor

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    Maybe "Wired" was miffed that they were left out of the publicity this time? Last time they ran an exclusive, prequel comic strip - and JJ was guest editor.
     
  3. teacake

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    Am I the only person who never reads reviews?

    I care more about what varying posters think of it than any columnist or youtube crusader.
     
  4. lurok

    lurok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'd love to see the Klingon High Council post-mortem after Kirk, Khan & Co left. The shame :lol:.
     
  5. Captrek

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    So what if a handful of Nibiruans saw a colossal... thing... rising out of the ocean? Most ancient cultures had stranger tales than that in their mythologies.

    What was the point of the underwater ship anyway? It's a hiding place? What a ridiculous way to hide the ship. Considering the state of technological development on Nibiru, the Enterprise crew could have operated freely and without risk of being seen simply by working at night.
     
  6. topas

    topas Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    In of the many interviews released it's either Quinto or Cumberbatch describing those as garbage scows.
     
  7. King Daniel Beyond

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    That reminds me of a bit I loved in the final fight. Khan has Spock's head and is doing his skull-crushing finishing move, and Spock counters with a mind meld! Khan screamed and let go. Spock was fighting dirty. It was awesome.

    I'd been wondering that too. My guess is automated trash haulers, kinda like we saw in Firefly. I don't recall seeing any windows or hint that there was a driver.

    I can't wait to get the DVD and see what easter eggs they snuck in there. The last movie had the First Contact Vulcan ship and an ENT Romulan Bird of Prey in the Narada's hangar, and an ENT Vulcan ship zipping through the sky on Vulcan.
     
  8. throwback

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    Native Americans were astounded by European ships. They included accounts of them in their histories. I think the inhabitants of that planet will likewise do the same with the Enterprise. Personally, I feel there is a difference between a people seeing an alien craft and people being given advanced alien technology.

    For scientists, how would a cold fusion device shut down a volcano? And how was that volcano a threat to the planet? Save for the village perched on the slope of the volcano, it didn't seem very threatening to the planet. Super volcanoes are massive - this volcano didn't seem massive to me.
     
  9. King Daniel Beyond

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    Ah, thank you! I assumed correctly:cool:
     
  10. Captrek

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    The same way red matter makes a black hole.

    The same way the Hobus supernova was a threat to the galaxy.
     
  11. DarKush

    DarKush Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    About Khan. Yeah I thought more about the change in appearance-and why no one seemed to care much about him revealing his real name-was possibly due to him being surgically altered. That rationalization makes me not hate the change as much as I did upon leaving the theater yesterday.

    I liked your explanations for some of the other things that happened in the film as well. Not sure if I agree with them, but at least you make the arguments well.
     
  12. throwback

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    I found the engineering as depicted in this movie wonky. I have already written a thread about the differences between this Enterprise and earlier Enterprises. Warp power goes - there goes the ship.

    The worst flaw was the reactor core. How do people service that thing? There are no catwalks. And how does that thing work? I am incapable of understanding how that thing works. I feel there was more thought put into the earlier ships than this one.

    And, I learned that this ship has not one, but two shuttlebays. The second shuttlebay has a ingress/egress hatch on the side of the ship. And that this ship has multiple launch tubes located on both sides of the hull. The more I write, the sillier this ship gets.
     
  13. Captrek

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    Good point. That rules it out as plausible 23rd century technology.
     
  14. Flux Capacitor

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    I have to say, seeing so much of 23rd century San Francisco was pretty awesome. On my next viewing I'll try to determine what streets they're showing. It almost looked like they ran down Howard St. but I can't be sure.
     
  15. Chu'lak

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    I'm going to put a list together when i am more awake today, but one thing we have always heard aboutbuting haven't seen before are mooring clamps. They are always telling the helm to clear them, and it was finally nice to see them and the Enterprise cast off away from the dock.
     
  16. Roald

    Roald Commander Red Shirt

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    I have finally seen the movie, and wow... I was blown away... I totally loved everything about the film..! I think the characters were very well written, especially the dynamics between Kirk and Spock; their evolving friendship and the theme of self-sacrifice forms the heart of the film, and to me, this felt more like ST than most other ST Movies... It's a shame that so many reviewers are over-analysing story details, just like what happened in 1980 with The Empire Strikes Back... It may be hard to imagine now, but back then, TESB got very mixed reviews...

    STID reminds me somewhat of Monsters Inc. If you analyse the story, it makes no sense that there's a CDA, since the head knows that children aren't poisonous... Over analyse story-details of Monsters Inc. and you could come to the conclusion that it's a bad plot and therefor a bad movie... But then you miss all the wonderful humour, and the wonderful chemistry between the characters... For me, STID is the same.
     
  17. topas

    topas Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Was just about to put this in the favorite scene thread. Surely one of the better Enterprise sequences in this film, I'm pleased we got so many this time, and that the ship may be finally viewed on screen from so many angles and perspectives, as opposed to the first movie.

    The new impulse drive at the end is awful, btw. The oval one was better, so 50's...
     
  18. btflash

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    went to the nine o'clock showing last night and the theater was deserted. there was a total of 6 people there and 4 of them were with me.it was playing on four screens and i checked all of them and there was virtually no one there.i wonder how well this movie will do?box office mojo said it made 2 mil, but great gatsby made double that. thats not a very good sign.......:wtf:
     
  19. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I live in a small community and we don't usually have anyone in the movie theaters. For instance, I saw '09 and Contagion, The Adjustment Bureau, and The Dark Knight Rises in an empty theater. There were 10 people in the theater during the performance I went to.
     
  20. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I forgot to say this about Khan. This man no way resembles II's version. He is more menacing, smarter, and a more sympathetic character (at least for awhile). Watching Enterprise crew members fly out of the ship because a Federation ship was firing on them at warp, is heartbreaking for those that value Starfleet. I thought Spock was incredibly well-written and well-acted, in his dialogue. Just some other thoughts on the movie.