Star Trek Into Darkness Blu-ray Problem

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by TrekToday, Aug 29, 2013.

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  1. Lucky

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    Frell. I don't mind retailer exclusive releases that have a few extra featurettes, but when it comes to the freaking audio commentary, I expect it to be on the blu-ray release. Giving it only to itunes is a slap in the face to the fans.
     
  2. Aatrek

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    We'll be covering all of this stuff in our review at TrekCore (currently under construction). Stay tuned.
     
  3. Casas9425

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    Yeah I really don't understand the thinking with the audio commentary. It's free to download so why not just put it on the disc? Makes no sense.
     
  4. Aatrek

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    It's more than just a separate audio track - it's a separate cut of the film (no additional movie footage) with additional on-screen annotations and a bunch of other stuff built in as well.
     
  5. trekker670

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    That could still easily be included with the disc, and would probably even be better suited for the BR format, where it can be an optional (interactive?) overlay track, rather than hard-coded onto the video itself. It also would require a drastic amount of space on the disc itself.
     
  6. Aatrek

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    The other issue is that the commentary is done over the IMAX version of the film, with shifting aspect ratios between IMAX and 'standard' footage. The BR is all 'standard' 2.40:1 aspect ratio.
     
  7. trekker670

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    All the more reason to include the IMAX AR in the standard release :techman:
     
  8. Casas9425

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    That pisses me off even more.
     
  9. JWPlatt

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    Looking forward to it.

    Just to remind this thread of the links I posted in the original Blu-ray thread, Bill Hunt of TheDigitalBits.com put up his rant and his review on Wednesday and they are getting quoted around the web.

    The rant:
    http://www.digitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/082813_1415

    The review:
    http://www.digitalbits.com/item/star-trek-into-darkness-bd
     
  10. KirkusOveractus

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    Just to put my viewpoint in here, although it may bother lots of the fans here about what Paramount did (and looking at it it really is scummy), what you have to think about is that the casual buyer is looking for the movie first and foremost. They may really not care at all about bonus features (when I get other movies, I'm really not that concerned about the bonus features at all - if there are some, good. If not, no big deal).

    As far as IMAX formatting, I don't get why that's important when you're viewing it at home. Yes, there may be more clarity, but it would be like looking at a letterbox VHS movie on a 13 inch TV, unless you have an IMAX screen handy.
     
  11. trekker670

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    It's the same reason I don't want TNG or any other series cropped to 16x9 -- the original aspect ratio is always better. In this case, some scenes were filmed with IMAX film, requiring a different aspect ratio.
     
  12. Keeper

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    IIRC, someone here once stated a key story detail can only be seen in the IMAX format, 'Kirk and Uhura holding hands'.

    Let the outrage commence!
     
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  14. Galileo7

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    Agree.:vulcan: I will not buy any version and wait for Paramount to release a version complete with all the extras in one release. :shrug:
     
  15. Aatrek

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    You'll be waiting a long time for that one.
     
  16. jimbotron

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    This isn't the same thing.. Previously, those "exclusive" bonus materials, books, music, toys, whatever, were in addition to what was created for the Blu-ray.

    In this case, what was created for a typical Blu-ray release (2-ish hours of featurettes plus a commentary) is split into different releases.

    Do you have Blade Runner on Blu-ray? Imagine that instead of the box set that's available everywhere, only Best Buy has a set that includes the workprint, only Target has a set that has the other cuts, only Wal-Mart has a set that has the deleted scenes, and every other release is just the final cut and a trailer. That's what STID has become.

    And if this becomes a business model that other studios adopt, then fans are screwed.
     
  17. Galileo7

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    :( Agree, this is disappointing.



    I know.:sigh:
     
  18. OneBuckFilms

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    And yet: I saw it both ways in the cinema, as I saw it on standard 2k digital projection, as well as in IMAX.

    The Blu-ray presentation appears to mimic the standard theatrical AR.
     
  19. austen_pierce

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    Practices like this will self-fulfill the standing prophecy that Blu-ray will be the shortest-lived media format EVER.
     
  20. JWPlatt

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    That honor may already be held by Circuit City's DIVX format (born June 8, 1998; died June 16, 1999), or maybe self-destructing disks like Flexplay. But they are both examples of where consumers flexed their power to reject manufacturer and studio stupidity, greed and eternal cynicism by not buying into it.
     
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