Star Trek III - The [Speculation Begins] (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Admiral Buzzkill, May 23, 2013.

  1. Hober Mallow

    Hober Mallow Commodore Commodore

    I wish they'd just rebooted Trek without apology instead of doing the half-assed geek reassuring branched timeline crap.
     
  2. King Daniel Beyond

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    Speak for yourself. I love that "timeline branching crap". The trick is, they do whatever the hell they want anyway and if fans like it, they'll suspend disbelief.
     
  3. Danlav05

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    Yeah a parallel timeline literally mean running parallel to the first one - that's what was said in the movie

    It is all a STORY, all your season boxsets are still on your shelf, JJ didn't wipe them from existence.

    What of STAR TREK 13 then?

    It's interesting to see how they will take the story forward- Klingons as the main enemy, would the Borg be a bit much?

    Even though before 'Into Darkness' I thought that Nimoy shouldn't have been in Trek12 to give the NuCrew a chance to shine I'm glad he was there and being the 50th Anniversary should the new one be released in 2016 I hope he makes another cameo. People forget that with The Cage [50 years old this year!; filmed Nov-Dec 64] Leonard Nimoy as Spock is Star Trek's longest serving character/actor, and spans right from then to last year's film.

    I do prefer an original story that moves the characters forward.
     
  4. BillJ

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    Same here. I appreciate them trying to split the difference but it came across awkwardly.

    Well, the wording makes it vague and open to interpretation. We're really working more with writer intent than anything clearly stated on screen.
     
  5. Ríu ríu chíu

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    I agree. If they had just started over, and ST XI had not involved time travel of any kind, it still wouldn't have erased the original timeline. The two versions of BSG, for example, exist side by side, and (unlikely though it may be that they could exist in the same universe) nobody seriously thought nuBSG overwrote the old, did they? Same story here.
     
  6. King Daniel Beyond

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    Old Spock is awesome. Your arguments are invalid :p
     
  7. Ríu ríu chíu

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    ^ Yes, Old Spock is awesome, but we've had plenty of films with him in them. ;)

    That being said, I'd also have settled for the ship that's destroyed in the opening of ST XI being the original, TOS-era Enterprise (with Robert April in command). That's what was supposed to happen, but Abrams was ordered to remove it because TPTB would not under any circumstances allow him to destroy an Enterprise. So he had to change it to the Kelvin, and April became Robau.
     
  8. Crisp Crinkle

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    That's the first I've heard of this. Do you have a link?

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Kelvin#Identifying_the_Kelvin says only this:

     
  9. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    The part about destroying the Enterprise came from this 2009 Newsarama interview, if I'm not mistaken:
    If the part about Robert April commanding was ever anything more than rumor or fan speculation, I don't know what its source might be.
     
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    I would like to see the next film dealing with the cardassians maybe in the Film the federation and cardassians become allies and friends unlike the prime universe where they dont get on.
     
  11. Crisp Crinkle

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    Thanks!

    That passage also doesn't seem to imply that the destruction of the Enterprise is what got revised into the Kelvin sequence, either. So, it doesn't contradict the Memory Alpha quote about the Iowa.
     
  12. BillJ

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    Outside of the Borg, I'm content to allow the 24th century species to remain in the 24th century.
     
  13. Xzpezer

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    In this realty the federation and cardasions have already met in star trek 2009 when uhura ordered a cardasion drink.
     
  14. Hober Mallow

    Hober Mallow Commodore Commodore

    Inside of the Borg, it's too dark to read.
     
  15. Harvey

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    When they reboot again (and they will) they can do this. The alternate timeline business was a bit awkward, but it provided a way for Leonard Nimoy to play Spock in the movie. I think it was worth it for that.
     
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    Has any actual information been revealed about... anything? In ST:XIII?

    It's so cool we are getting an ST:XIII :adore:
     
  17. M'Sharak

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    Admiral Julius Marx?
     
  18. Hober Mallow

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    I couldn't help it. :)
     
  19. Sindatur

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    We know that with Directing/Producing/Writing activity, a third movie is definitely on, currently.

    We know JJ/Bad Robot are looking for a Director, and Bad Robot will still Hold Producing Credits/Control.

    I believe Lindeloff has left the writing staff (And Kurtzman, as well?) and there are two "Up and Coming" hopefuls that will be writing the Script with Orci.

    I think that's pretty much what we know so far, though I believe there's been strong rumors of a goal of having a 2016 release date, to coincide with 50th Anniversary.

    ETA: Oh, also, they are changing shooting City, expecting to save about $20M, which will be chopped off the Budget (IE: Same practical budget, but, it will cost them $20M less [Savings from changing shooting location])
     
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  20. Dick_Valentine

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    Well, I listened to a podcast the other day with Pegg in it (Richard Herring's Leicester Square theatre Podcast (RHLSTP!), very funny!) where he confirmed there would be a third move and he will be in it, if that helps :p

    I wish it had happened that way, if only to remove the ugly-arse Kelvin design from canon, pretty much the ONLY design in post 09-Trek that looks terrible imo
    (hey, hero ships should have symmetry dammit, not a stupid upside down hull/single nacelle combination!)