Star Trek: Axanar

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Linnear, Sep 24, 2012.

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  1. Ithekro

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    I think I was one of the ones arguing that the ships are ships and it doesn't matter if they came from the film or not, they are Star Trek ships, and have been made to fit in within a time period where there is basically nothing canon when it comes to ships. From the late 2190s to 2245 there were no canon ships known in Starfleet except if one accepts he Kelvin as a canon ship. Then you have a design style to base other ship off until such time as the Constitutions come around in the 2240s.

    If you are going to have a war with the Klingons prior to the Constitutions and ships based directly on their design, than you need something to fill in the older ships in the Starfleet. The Kelvin-based designs are as good as any. With them scaled down to TOS sizes and fitted with nacelles similar to the Constitution's, they fit right in as older style ships. Thus avoiding the overly large ships from Star Trek and that nacelles styling, as well as not going into that film's version of the Constitution-class, which seems to be were more people got upset that with the Kelvin-based ships.


    Also with 10 hours left in the Kickstarter, they are just over $560,000. Most likely due to a show of support from George Takei.
     
  2. BobtheGunslinge

    BobtheGunslinge Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Would CBS own the rights to the merchandising? For example, could they sell Ares or D6 ship models?
     
  3. BigJake

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    Demand. It's a useful way of gauging demand.
     
  4. Red Omega

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    Yes they could as those are their own designs. The D6 might be a bit iffy, since it is very close to a D7, but my guess is it would be OK.
     
  5. Bixby

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    Wow... there's but seconds to go and Axanar has almost, alllllllll-most made it to their hoped-for total. Only two minutes left and 638.000$ totalled...

    Sincere Congratulations, Alec Peters and crew!!!
     
  6. Ithekro

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    I imagine the other donations outside Kickstarter will makeup for the rest before Producion starts.
     
  7. BigJake

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    They topped $657K on Kickstarter. Remarkable.
     
  8. Borgminister

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    That's insane! As in crazy good!
     
  9. Harvey

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    Not really. The project has 8,548 backers. The "Prelude to Axanar" short has been shared almost 77,000 times, but it is, of course, free to watch.

    "Axanar," like other fan films with a large profile ("Renegades," "Phase II," "Continues," etc.) proves what CBS already knows -- that there's a small, but dedicated contingent of hardcore Star Trek fans, many of whom have deep pockets.

    None of that speaks to the commercial demand for a Star Trek television series or feature film.
     
  10. mos6507

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    And yet, despite this they've already announced they will have further fundraisers. Where this stops and where the money really winds up in the end is anyone's guess. But it definitely does seem to strain the definition of what constitutes a non-profit fan-film.
     
  11. BigJake

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    Have to say I find the constant attempts in some quarters to imply financial bad faith on the part of the Axanar team to be both obnoxious and in incredibly poor taste. Also, someone who can't get their head around the concept that "non-profit" involves fundraising is not qualified to talk about what "strains the definition of non-profit."
     
  12. Borgminister

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    "Covering expenses" is not "for profit". Long as they provide a detailed enumeration of expenses, what's the problem? Nobody's forcing anyone to donate anyway--not even a Nigerian prince! :p
     
  13. BigJake

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    :shrug: Too speculative a point to be worth pressing.

    Some people apparently think "non-profit" means "magically runs everything without money." Working in the non-profit sector would sure be a heck of a lot easier if that was true! :lol:
     
  14. Duncan MacLeod

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    First off, not everyone who pledges will actually pay.

    Second, 10 % goes to pay Kickstarter and Amazon

    Third, 10 % goes to pay for the perks.

    So let's figure only 5 % of the pledges never get paid. That would leave Team Axanar with $492K and the need to run one more kickstarter to raise the remaining $158K that they need.

    No deceit involved. Just the mechanics of fund-raising through kickstarter.
     
  15. BigJake

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    Which they of course explained quite clearly.
     
  16. Duncan MacLeod

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    Quite correct, they did.
     
  17. beamMe

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    Will you give it a rest!?

    I mean, just... Shut up!
     
  18. Kruezerman

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    Is this turning into the XI Forum now? Is the insanity finally migrating or just expanding?
     
  19. King Daniel Beyond

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    Must be those Kelvin ships. They're carriers of the madness.
     
  20. Chemahkuu

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    Oh now don't you go blaming those nice Andromedans. Alright they tried to invade once but come on. :p
     
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