Star Trek (2009) Surpasses TMP in Inflation-Adjusted Numbers!

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by CoveTom, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. CoveTom

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    Let me state at the outset that I know different sites use different methods for their calculations, and that there is also disagreement of the relevance of these numbers, but I find them interesting none-the-less.

    According to BoxOffice.com, Star Trek (2009) now stands at a domestic gross of $239,444,000. That officially pushes it past the inflation-adjusted domestic gross for TMP which is $239,115,674 (also provided by BoxOffice.com). That means that the new film now is the most financially successful of all the Trek movies, both in terms of raw numbers and when adjusted for inflation!

    Here is the complete breakdown, again with data from BoxOffice.com:

    RAW NUMBERS:
    Star Trek (2009) - $239,444,000
    The Voyage Home - $109,713,132
    First Contact - $92,027,888
    The Motion Picture - $82,258,456
    The Wrath of Khan - $78,737,310
    The Search for Spock - $76,389,860
    Generations - $75,671,125
    The Undiscovered Country - $74,886,996
    Insurrection - $70,187,658
    The Final Frontier - $52,210,049
    Nemesis - $43,126,129

    ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION:
    Star Trek (2009): - $239,444,000
    The Motion Picture - $239,115,674
    The Voyage Home - $212,328,919
    The Wrath of Khan - $192,290,437
    The Search for Spock - $163,237,856
    First Contact - $149,493,266
    Generations - $129,980,545
    The Undiscovered Country - $127,720,425
    Insurrection - $107,451,468
    The Final Frontier - $93,951,918
    Nemesis - $53,387,173
     
  2. Borgminister

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    Fascinating.
     
  5. Stardate

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    1. ST:TMP worldwide gross $409.5 million:p
    2. Star Trek worldwide gross $361.6 million

    and using this http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl ST:TMP domestic gross is now $242.3 million.
     
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  6. Jimmy_C

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    I don't really trust the worldwide gross of TMP. Can you use US domestic inflation data for other countries?
     
  7. Nimthim

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    This is a confusing comparison to make at times, as shown by this article at TrekMovie that shows Star Trek (2009) passed ST:TMP in number of tickets at under $236million:
    http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/20/sta...mce-most-attended-film-in-franchise-domestic/

    So if inflation-adjusted figures are supposed to level the field in reference to increases in ticket prices only, wouldn't this be the apples-to-apples comparison?

    In any case, whatever infaltion-adjusted figures you use, Star Trek will end up passing TMP in the end.
     
  8. Mr Awe

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    Close, but not quite!

    Adjusted domestic number for TMP is $240,905,143 and you state that the current ST number is: $239,444,000. So, just a bit short. But, cool that it should be broken soon! Only $1.5 million to go!

    Mr Awe
     
  9. Borgminister

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    Hey, either way it marks a successful rebirth and ensures new stories to come... :)
     
  10. Mr Awe

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    I noticed this part of your text after my previous reply. While I'd say that both movies are tied in terms of domestic box revenue, it is not true that the current movie is the most financially successful, at least not based on the domestic numbers.

    Inflation adjusted:

    TMP: $241m box - $103m budget = $138m profit
    STXI: $240m box - $150m budget = $90m profit

    STXI needs to take in another $38m to tie TMP for profits.

    That's just comparing the domestic first run box revenue and profits. If you through in other stuff that could change it. But, I'm comparing apples to apples here.

    Mr Awe
     
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    $250m....here we come!!!!!
     
  13. Jeri

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    Indeed. And the movie came in under budget, some say as low as $130 million.

    DVD's are a valid comparison, because lots of people don't go to the theater and wait for the home version, which wasn't possible in 1979. It does impact theater sales.
     
  14. DalekJim

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    I was really not expecting the film to do this well, brilliant. Trek is back and bigger than ever!
     
  15. Stardate

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    I think we should have box office and DVDs sales separate. American population has increased roughly 80 million since 1980s plus the fact new market has open after fall of Soviet Union. There is lot more people now than 1980s so more people equals more DVDs sales.
     
  16. Similitude

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    I was hoping to pass TMP in both Domestic and Worldwide, but I suppose we can let XII do that.
     
  17. SonicRanger

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    True. Many more people have DVDs now than they did in the 1980s. :p
     
  18. Borgminister

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    Let's count Beta sales!
     
  19. flemm

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    Wow, none of these comparisons to films from other eras strike me as meaningful in the slightest... :confused:

    But whatever...

    I understand the desire to say in as many ways as possible: the new movie's doing great! :techman:
     
  20. Borgminister

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    I think that's what this is, relief and joy at Star Trek being "back" again and enjoying the most success it has in a long, long time.

    There is no obvious attempt to belittle TMP or any other Trek movie.

    Well, except TFF.

    :p