Spoilers: Is It Me Or Did Sulu Have More Confidence Than Kirk?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Shilliam Watner, May 20, 2013.

  1. Shilliam Watner

    Shilliam Watner Commander

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    To me, when Sulu was asked to take the conn, he became one hell of a acting captain. The way he addressed Harrison was epic and seemed to me that he actually had more confidence than Kirk sitting in the chair. He was strict and meant business and he wasn't reckless. Also when he was hovering the shuttle over the volcano he had to make split decisions and decided to abort despite Spock's line snapping and Uhura's pleas to stay. He put safety first. Any thoughts?
     
  2. C.E. Evans

    C.E. Evans Admiral Admiral

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    I think it was about the same for both. Both Kirk and Sulu are young officers who arise to the occasion when necessary in that captain's chair.

    Half of being a good captain is being able to convince others you know what you're doing, even if you really privately don't, IMO.
     
  3. aeriolewinters

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    he should: the nuExcelsior is waiting.
     
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  5. Pauln6

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    On balance, Sulu is a better officer and a more realistic officer than Kirk. He's more like how I imagine Kirk Prime would have been at his age.
     
  6. I am not Spock

    I am not Spock Commodore Commodore

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    Trek 13 should introduce the nu Excelsior!
     
  7. CorporalClegg

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    I think it just stems from Cho probably gave a better performance than expected.

    He did a great job with his limited screen time.

    Oh myyy!
     
  8. Kpnuts

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    Maybe better to wait till Trek 14?

    Either way, more Nu Federation starships next time please !
     
  9. Campe98

    Campe98 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    nuExcelsior could mean a vacancy at the nuHelm. Would this mean we would get nuSaavik?
     
  10. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    We had nuExcelsior in this movie: it was called the USS Vengeance. But otherwise, it fit the bill: transwarp drive, bigger ship, etc... It was built for a different mission, of course, but I would think the Excelsior was on the drawing boards for at least a decade and some before it was actually built. So, it evolved into Vengeance instead.
     
  11. sj4iy

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    Kirk's father figure had just been murdered. Kirk really wasn't thinking very clearly the entire time, and when Khan told him about Marcus, he was even more shattered that he had taken his crew into such a bad situation by falling for Marcus' ruse.
     
  12. C.E. Evans

    C.E. Evans Admiral Admiral

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    Wrong universe. In this one, it's "White Castle!"*


    *Know the reference?
    :rofl:
     
  13. Crazyewok

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    Sulu has alway been more secure in his self.

    Kirk has always ozzed over compensation and insecurity.

    Both have strenghths and weaknesses.

    If I was a admiral I would send Kirk on the finky missions that
    may need creative thinking but dammed if I would trust him on something I need reliable predictable results.

    Sulu I would use for jobs that would be out of Kirks skill area. He is more of a line officer who could be pretty trusted.
     
  14. The Wormhole

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    Sulu commanding Excelsior, Chekov his first officer, Saavik and Valeris take over the Enterprise's helm and navigation.
     
  15. Kpnuts

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    Fixed for you
     
  16. sj4iy

    sj4iy Commander Red Shirt

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    Oh, thought I'd add that Sulu is in command of the Enterprise for about an hour until Kirk and Spock get back and his only order is to make a speech and have torpedoes pointing Kronos. Kirk is in charge of this entire mission that not even HE feels good about until he has to go risk his life to save his ship...twice. A little different.
     
  17. Nightowl1701

    Nightowl1701 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    "If you test me, you will fail."
    "DAMMNNN, Roldy...!"

    Even Machete had to admit the dude had cojones. :lol:
     
  18. BriGuy

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    Sulu here did a heck of a better job in the chair than poor Chekov did in Final Frontier.... "Wait! Come back!" lol
     
  19. imranbecks

    imranbecks Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Alas we all know, Sulu is bound to be captain sooner or later. Its in him. At least he was captain in the other timeline ;-)