Spoiler-ish predictions from current STID trailer

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Foxhot, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. Foxhot

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    I'm not going to speculate on whether Cumberpatch is actually playing Khan, but since the new trailer ends with two hands between glass, one arm clad in yellow, the second in blue.....

    Are we to believe that Abrams would deliberately tip us off AND make a conclusion THAT similar to WRATH OF KHAN? Part of me doubts that. It reels you in, but I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that this moment will be in the middle of the movie and the arm will NOT belong to Spock. Mr. Blue is dying, I assume, but I believe the arm belongs to McCoy. And here's why.

    The trailer has a noticeable Starfleet memorial moment with a the draping of a coffin. A VIP officer most likely, which leaves out Cupcake. I believe at least one and possibly up to three of Kirk's crew will bite it this installment. Before I saw the trailer at all I came to this speculation.....because to kill Spock in ANOTHER Part Two would be a repetitive unimagininity. So I think McCoy's days are numbered.

    It makes dramatic sense to raise the stakes for Kirk, who almost certainly won't perish. Spock, again, has died two or three times, but McCoy hasn't died since ''Shore Leave.'' For Kirk to lose his ''first friend'' instead fits the bill. The Karl Urban clips looked fairly intense, and having him die would explain Chapel's scream.

    As for Spock, he's already lost his mother and home planet. If he must lose somebody.....it'd possibly be Uhura. If she does go, I'm guessing they'll save that moment for the end.

    We also have a scene segment with Kirk and Sulu running for their lives in a crimson cornfield, followed by a pensive Kirk close-up. Perhaps Sulu will die in this segment. These two have battled together and won in the first film. To both survive again would, like having Kirk and Spock's hands between the glass, would be too thematically redundant, at least to this writer.

    So, in conclusion, I believe McCoy is definitely toast, Sulu may be victim two and Uhura MAY buy it at the very end. Three months from now, this post could be very prescient, or very embarrassing. We shall see.

    PS: I'm thinking Bones will do the salute as a dying joke. Obviously it suggests Spock, but why would Abrams want to do that if the blue arm is dying?
     
  2. CorporalClegg

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    Urban's performance is one thing critics unanimously gush over. Bones isn't going anywhere.
     
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    He's a doctor, not a redshirt!
     
  4. Foxhot

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    Of course, being TREK, whatever deaths occur for the principals would be permanent only for this movie.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the hands through the glass are Spock and Harrison. In the brig. Possibly a mindfuck by Harrison which allows him to escape, since the positions seems to indicate he's in distress and Spock is reaching out to him.

    I doubt any of the main seven will die. That leaves Pike at the top of the "disposable" list.
     
  8. Hartzilla2007

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    The blond chick is Carol Marcus nor Chapel and the running through the red field thing is what the Enterprise crew is doing before the villain starts things, plus Kirk is with McCoy not Sulu.
     
  9. Foxhot

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    I originally thought Pike would spike and burn in the 2009 film. When Amanda died instead, that became unnecessary. And NOBODY had better harm Mr. Scott. Not even slightly.
     
  10. SalvorHardin

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    I doubt anyone from the main cast is going anywhere.
     
  11. Franklin

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    First, that's Kirk and McCoy (not Sulu) running through a field of red vegetation before jumping off the cliff into the ocean. Second, I didn't see a hand with a yellow sleeve in the shot that's evocative of Spock's death in TWOK. It looks like the sleeve of the black undershirt. Third, the woman screaming is Alice Eve, who is known for fact to be playing Carol Marcus, not Chapel. Fourth, McCoy doing the Vulcan salute as a dying joke? Really?

    I don't think we know for sure which character on opposite sides of that glass is dying, if either. There's been a lot of speculation, but I'd put the odds near zero on that blue shirt belonging to McCoy and at nearly one hundred percent that it's Spock.
     
  12. Foxhot

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    It's the obligatory homage.
    But I think it will be more different than it appears.
    The godawful DIE HARD V had a ''falling Alan Rickman'' homage and an ''Ode to Joy'' ringtone. Those were the only high points in the whole film.
     
  13. M'Sharak

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    But why would you assume that?
     
  14. CorporalClegg

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    Traditionally, hands on opposite sides of glass have seldom depicted a death scene.
     
  15. Robert Maxwell

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    Cumberbatch.

    Is it really that hard to spell his name correctly?
     
  16. CorporalClegg

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    Cucumberpatch.
     
  17. HaventGotALife

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    The Enterprise is destroyed in this movie, from what I saw in the Super Bowl ad. I think Kirk fouls up and he loses his ship because of it. 2009 Kirk but fraught with consequences. I think, from what they are saying, that there will be attacks on earth the Kirk should've been able to stop. That would make a much more interesting movie. It's about the burden of command. And it would leave this Kirk as close to broken as he ever was.
     
  18. Foxhot

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    Robin's father from ''V'' asked:
    ''Is it really that hard to spell his name correctly?''

    Yes. Corporal Clegg commented:
    ''Traditionally, hands on opposite sides of glass have seldom depicted a death scene.''

    Except in the classic film Abrams is homaging. At the very least he appears to want us to think Spock's in trouble again. I think it's a misdirection.
     
  19. chardman

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    It's pretty darn obvious that what lie beyond the glass wall in the trailer, is identical to the cell from the picture we've all seen of Cumberbatch in the brig.

    In other films where we've seen two people "touching" their hands to either side of a glass wall, invariably, one of the two is incarcerated, and the other a visitor. Seeing as Abrams makes his films for mainstream audiences, and NOT the fans, it's pretty much a safe bet that this stereotypical prison visitation scene, is intended as an homage to other prison visitation scenes, and is most likely not a bit of misdirection designed to make a small faction of Trekkie go apeshit.

    Er... no. What we see in that ad is a ship of fairly common Starfleet design, albeit with nacelles that are shaped nothing like those of Enterprise, wrecking into a bay. Moreover, you can tell by the skyscrapers that are in the foreground of the shot, that this ship is freaking huge compared to Enterprise.

    I'm guessing it's a long-lost and forgotten colony ship from the earliest days of Starfleet, and the source of both Harrison, and his ire against a Federation that he perceives as having essentially abandoned/forgotten him and his fellow crewmates. A colony ship also pretty much explains the cryo-tubes we see in the ad, and the fact that there's a really big wreck, and presumably at least a few resulting fatalities, pretty much explains the funeral scene we see as well.
     
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  20. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Given that in one post you mangled the name of the main guest star, misidentified McCoy as Sulu and got confused about the whole hands-on-glass thing then based speculation on that...

    ...I'm going with the "very embarrassing" option. High confidence.