Spock Prime Warnings To NuSpock

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by austen_pierce, Jul 25, 2014.

  1. austen_pierce

    austen_pierce Captain Captain

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    I almost posted this in another thread, but realized it might be a spoiler there, so.....

    We've joked about Spock's Brain being a horrendous episode, but it occurred to me that Nimoy-Spock might also break his oath of silence regarding events yet to happen to Quinto-Spock given the trauma associated with having one's brain removed against one's will. What do you think?

    Would/should Spock Prime warn NuSpock that aliens will try to steal his brain?

    What else might Spock Prime consider important enough to forewarn NuSpock, understanding that both are already in an alternate timeline?
     
  2. Nebusj

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    I admit it's hard to come up with a really compelling reason not to warn about as many threats as possible. So many had happy endings only by the skin of Kirk's teeth that any preparation seems more likely to be useful than not.

    Certainly the Big Inevitable Extra-territorial Menaces need warnings --- Nomad, the Giant Space Amoeba, the Whale Probe --- and, heck, just a clear statement about what to do with those is likely to save more lives than were lost with Vulcan. Add in the Doomsday Machine and the Flying Space Pancakes that killed Kirk Prime's brother prime, and we're reaching the point where Spock Prime is a positive, definite force for good in the New Timeline even without revealing any more advanced technologies. (I'd imagine someone's done stories where he's abducted for his knowledge.)

    Data on individual planets and minor crises, like Eminiar or Elas or Ekos (say, what is it with the e-class planets?) are likely to be relevant still and well worth sharing since the Enterprise went in near enough blind to too many of those.

    Stuff that gets to galactic politics, like what's going on with the Enterprise Incident Romulan Commander, are likely to be scrambled by changed history past the point of being very useful. I'd imagine biographers of, say, Gorkon would be very interested, if Gorkon matters in the New Timeline, but any information especially about people born after the Kelvin was destroyed is going to be of marginal value.
     
  3. wulfio

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    dont forget the animated series!
     
  4. AirCommodore

    AirCommodore Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    If there is one thing obvious from ST 09 is that Spock's destiny and the destiny of Vulcan and the Federation has been very obviously and permanently altered. So I don't know what Elder Spock is afraid of now. He might as well give them the low down on as many things as he knows.
     
  5. King Daniel Beyond

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    Greg Cox wrote a novel about Spock Prime's future-knowledge way back in 2009, called The Hazard of Concealing - but it was pulled prior to publication and indefinitely shelved.

    Here's the blurb:
    The events of the recent movie have left one important loose end: the elder Spock from the 24th century. His knowledge of both technology and future events makes him one of the most important strategic assets in the galaxy. Starfleet Command wants Ambassador Spock to rejoin Starfleet and share that information with them, but Spock is reluctant to interfere with the unfolding of the new timeline. Will he be able to escape a sinister plan wrought by the enemies of the Federation, or will their quest to exploit Spock’s wisdom succeed, with disastrous consequences?

    If only it found it's way online one day...
     
  6. xavier

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    The writers just felt they needed to bring Nimoy back at all cost. I preferred Nimoy as Spock in Trek 09 so much elegance, grace, wisdom and depth he brought to the first film. the second film he was put there for fan service, however it is always a pleasure to see Nimoy.
     
  7. The Wormhole

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    Spock Prime shows up on the monitor screen.

    Spock Prime: "Dr. McCoy, to what do I owe this pleasure."
    McCoy: "We've run into a problem with our Mr. Spock."
    Spock Prime: "I have sworn a solemn vow never to-"
    McCoy: "Cram it! You helped us out with Khan you can help us out here."
    Spock Prime: "I was going to add that since you're asking I will make an exception just this once. What is the problem Doctor?"
    McCoy: "Our Spock's brain is missing."
    Spock Prime: "His brain is missing."
    McCoy: "Someone beamed aboard the bridge and performed an instant lobotomy right there."
    Spock Prime stares blankly, possibly irritated.
    McCoy: "Well?"
    Spock Prime: "I am sending you the coordinates of the planet the brain has been taken. Fix this problem on your own and do not bother me any further on this matter."
    McCoy: "Why not?"
    Spock Prime: "Some memories are too terrible to relive."
     
  8. Oso Blanco

    Oso Blanco Commodore Commodore

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    This! And they should make SpockPrime a major character in the next movie!
     
  9. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Actually, it would tie things up nicely if they gave Spock Prime a major role in the next film...and then killed him.
     
  10. Oso Blanco

    Oso Blanco Commodore Commodore

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    Nooooooooooooooooooo!
     
  11. Claudia

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    Erm, why only limit his information to things that happen in TOS? Why not include a warning against the Borg? Preparation is everything...
     
  12. Gaith

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    :cool:

     
  13. T'Girl

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    It doesn't sound like Nimoy would be medically capable of doing this ... unfortunately.



    :)
     
  14. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    Already covered that one in another thread:

     
  15. Commishsleer

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    Agreed
    Also include the brain thing. Why not?

    The only thing is who do you tell?
    Admiral Marcus would have been likely to use the information for military gain. Does Prime Spock then trust the rest of Starfleet?
     
  16. Enterprise1701

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    Y'know why didn't Admiral Marcus and Section 31 kidnap Spock Prime and force him to divulge all his secrets?
     
  17. austen_pierce

    austen_pierce Captain Captain

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    I doubt this will happen. If it does, I hope they give Nimoy-Spock a dignified and meaningful end.
     
  18. Melakon

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    Spock Prime: At least that fucking two-timing T'Pring bitch is dead, but you're going to have massive boner in a couple of years. Prepare yourself.
     
  19. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Real Me Premium Member

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    New Spock raises an eyebrow.

    Spock Prime: She's right behind me, isn't she?
     
  20. The Wormhole

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    Too busy building the Vengeance?