SpaceX is a go for April 30th: 1st commercial launch to space station

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  1. YellowSubmarine

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    The payload was successfully put in orbit and deployed, which I hope means that ORBCOMM will proceed with the bigger payloads they have planned. It's only the orbit that sucks, which might render the satellite useless, but that appears to have been done by design... somewhat. :borg: SpaceX managed to launch the Falcon 9 and Dragon flawlessly again, yet they chose to proceed with a mission that would put one of its payloads in jeopardy even on a successful mission. It sounds weird, but if their objective was only a demonstration, I guess it can still count as success. Or can it?
     
  2. Crazy Eddie

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    As I understand it, the Orbcomm satellite will still be able to raise its orbit using its own propulsion systems, although that will use up a lot of fuel and maybe shorten its operational life. But I could be wrong.
     
  3. YellowSubmarine

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    Their press release said exactly this, and yeah, I doubt they will pay full price to SpaceX for this, if they pay them at all. The real question is whether they will count this as a success and launch their next batch of satellites with SpaceX? If I understood Gwynne correctly, the satellite was the milestone SpaceX needed to pass to continue with the rest of their contract with ORBCOMM.
     
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    The situation with the ISS safety gate, and I presume limits on the second stage's LOX boiling off, would be a good argument for having a seperate storable hypergolic propulsion system for secondary payloads. Perhaps they could use a regular Draco thruster for the task.
     
  5. YellowSubmarine

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    And we're berthed! They hurried so much with the berthing because of the ice cream, and now they have to wait for the hatch opening. Poor astronauts. I'll have to remember not to tease them by telling them I can buy my ice cream by walking around the corner.
     
  6. YellowSubmarine

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    OK, so splashdown is due in a few minutes. The parachutes just deployed. Great job!

    Edit: "Dragon safely splashed down in Pacific at 12:22PM PT" - so as space flight is concerned, CRS-1 is a success.
     
  7. Crazy Eddie

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    ^ It was a success when it docked with the space station, technically. The loss of blood and urine samples would be regrettable, but not catastrophic.

    To have it be a COMPLETE success just bolsters the case for commercial spaceflight even more: with two fully operational flights under its belt, the Dragon is now in a far better position to begin crewed flights than any other spacecraft in America.
     
  8. YellowSubmarine

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    If SpaceX plan to sell their Occupy Mars t-shirts to the future Martian 99% they need to guarantee them safe landing. Unsuccessful re-entry would not re-assure them.
     
  9. gturner

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    But landng on Mars wouldn't require re-entry, just entry. :)
     
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    An interesting smackdown from Musk on Ariane 5:
    http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=30402.msg981261

    One person tried to describe the folks there as being like ATK. Ironically, solids were looked at for the cheaper Ariane 6 option. Sadly, that may mean no ATV?
     
  11. Byeman

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    What a bunch of crap, disinformation and outright lies.
     
  12. Byeman

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    More cluelessness. There is no conflict of interest. ULA treats Boeing and SNC equally. Anyways, your view is so warped, that you actually can't see a real potential conflict of interest. Dragon vs Dream Chaser. If your world is real, then Spacex would be favoring is own Dragon over Dream Chaser.
     
  14. Byeman

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    More disinformation and lies

    1. It was not bigger than needed. Russians didn't have the technology at time to shrink the payload. The US did and we are better off in many ways. Also, the R-7 was never a viable weapon system.

    2. You don't even know what the ULA culture is. In your warped view of the world, you have a perception of ULA that in no way reflects reality.

    3. That is total wrong and has no basis in fact. Also, you don't have the knowledge or experience to make such a claim.
     
  15. Byeman

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  16. Crazy Eddie

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    A long-time aerospace guru with years of experience working for NASA, whose expertise can be ultimately distilled to "You're stupid! I'm right! Multi-quote? What's that?"
     
  17. publiusr

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    That and a case of recto-cranial infarction.
     
  18. Scroogourner

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    ^And yet, he takes your arguments apart rather nicely.
     
  19. Crazy Eddie

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    I'm not sure that 5 consecutive posts of "You're a clueless moron with a warped view of the world" could actually be described as "taking an argument apart."
     
  20. Scroogourner

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    Oh I wasn't referring to his reply to you, just the point for points he made against publiusr.