So What Are you Reading?: Generations

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by captcalhoun, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    ^It helps to enjoy Dracula if you're a fan of typewriters...
     
  2. Relayer1

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    I was about two thirds through it when I quit. I just don't think it's particularly good. It's certainly dull.

    It's hugely better than the belated follow up by Dacre Stoker though, which I think is the worst book I have ever read. Perversely, I finished that one...
     
  3. Spocky8492

    Spocky8492 Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I was exactly in the same situation as you, as you I like modern vampire stories and I wanted to read the "origin" of the vampire, but Dracula is really old now and comparing with novels of our days, I found it slow and quite boring. I finished it though, but because I wanted to finish it, not because I was enjoying it.
     
  4. Christopher

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    I found Dracula interesting from a narrative/structural standpoint, because it's so self-referential. The process of creating the epistolary narrative is itself a central plot point in that narrative, because it's by assembling the evidence in that form that the characters are able to deduce what's going on and devise a plan for dealing with it. It's kind of the Victorian equivalent of a found-footage movie.
     
  5. Paris

    Paris Commodore Commodore

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    I'm still having a hell of a time getting through DRG3's Allegiance in Exile for some reason. In the meantime I started and finished both Book 2 of the Kirk/Gary Mitchell trilogy by MJF and Recovery, the final "Lost Years" book by J.M. Dillard. I really enjoyed both books. I've never checked out the second or third LY stories, so i'll probably go there next along with the third book in the Kirk/Mitchell trilogy.
     
  6. Reanok

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    The Lost year books and the Kirk/ Gary Mitchell books are well writen.I reread them again last year I enjoyed how MJF wrote about the Kirk/Gary Mitchell friendship in the Brother's keeper trilogy. I just finished reading Startrek Weight of worlds by Greg Cox. It's a fast paced story well writen and exciting.I'm now reading Star Trek Debtor's planet and Tales of the Dominion war.
     
  7. Paris

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    ^I've been on a bit of an MJF kick lately with the Kirk/Mitchell books as well as the Stargazer books. I like a lot of the little books that were released in the late 1990's and early 2000's. I LOVE the stuff published today, but sometimes i miss those 250 page suckers :p.
     
  8. CorporalCaptain

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    Star Trek, the Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh, Volume One by Greg Cox.
     
  9. Sakrysta

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    I just got to the "Mack Event" in Silent Weapons. :scream:
     
  10. JD

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    I did decide to set Dracula aside. I downloaded the first Volumes of the new Wonder Woman and Justice League Dark series from DC Comics New 52. I plan on starting WW: Blood later this afternoon.
     
  11. Fer

    Fer Commander Red Shirt

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    I just finished Star Wars: Tales of the Bounty Hunters. Tomorrow I kick off Tom Baker month with Doctor Who: Corpse Marker by Chris Boucher. Up on deck after that is Tales from Jabba's Palace.
     
  12. wahwahkits

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    Just finished 'Plagues Of Night', fantastic book, now onto 'Raise The Dawn'
     
  13. Use of Time

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    Just started The Lives of Dax.
     
  14. Garrovick

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    TOS: The Weight of Worlds by Greg Cox
    Titus Andronicus by William Shakespeare
    Gateways Book 1: One Small Step by Susan Wright
    Shadows on the Sun by Michael Jan Friedman

    Over the past week, I finished:
    Cold Equations Book 3: The Body Electric by David Mack
    TNG: The Stuff of Dreams by James Swallow
    Imbalance (TNG #22) by V. E. Mitchell
    A Clash of Kings by George R. R. Martin
    VOY: Children of the Storm by Kirsten Beyer
    Swordhunt (TOS #95) by Diane Duane
     
  15. NightJim

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    Just finished New Frontier: Fire on High, weakest of the series so far, but still enjoying it. Taking a break from Star Trek for Scott Sigler's Nocturnal before I hit the way back machine and read the Captain's Table series

    I've actually gone through the timeline and worked out where all of PAD's TNG stories fall, so post Nocturnal I'm going to start on them in chronological order.
     
  16. rahullak

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    Star Trek TNG The Stuff of Dreams by James Swallow

    Two Graves by Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child
     
  17. Daddy Todd

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    This was definitely A. Bertram Chandler & Arthur C. Clarke month for me -- Clarke for audios in the car/on the treadmill; Chandler for magazine & book reading.

    03/01/2013 Childhood's End (audiobook) by Arthur C. Clarke
    03/02/2013 The Search for Sally (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/02/2013 I'll Take Over (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/03/2013 Two-Edged Saw (The Ultimate Vice) (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/03/2013 Artifact (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/03/2013 The Beholders (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/03/2013 How to Win Friends (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/03/2013 Sister Under the Skin (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/03/2013 The Half Pair (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 Flypaper Planet (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 The Converts (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 The Tie That Binds (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 One Man's Ambition (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 Motivation (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 Swap Shop (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/04/2013 Ghost (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/06/2013 The Explanation (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/06/2013 Fall of Knight (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/06/2013 In the Box (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/08/2013 The Light of Other Days (audiobook) by Arthur C. Clarke & Stephen Baxter
    03/09/2013 Words and Music (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/09/2013 It Started with Sputnik (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/09/2013 SOS, Planet Unknown (na) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/09/2013 The Song (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/10/2013 Why? (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/10/2013 Invasion (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/10/2013 Dreamboat (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/10/2013 Albatross (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/11/2013 Planet of Ill Repute (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/11/2013 What's in a Name? (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/11/2013 Clear View (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/11/2013 Critical Angle (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/11/2013 The Underside (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/12/2013 2001: A Space Odyssey (audiobook) by Arthur C. Clarke
    03/16/2013 Spaceman's Delight (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/16/2013 The Silence (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/16/2013 To Run the Rim (na) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/16/2013 Precession (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/16/2013 No More Sea (na) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/16/2013 The Right Ingredients (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/17/2013 2010: Odyssey Two (audiobook) by Arthur C. Clarke
    03/18/2013 Temptress of Eden (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/18/2013 Can Do (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/19/2013 The Outsiders (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/20/2013 2061: Odyssey Three (audiobook) by Arthur C. Clarke
    03/20/2013 Familiar Pattern (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/21/2013 The Female of the Species (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/21/2013 The Idol (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/22/2013 The Magic, Magic Carpet (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/23/2013 Lost Thing Found (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/23/2013 Homing Tantalus (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/23/2013 Seeing Eye (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/23/2013 The Habit (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/23/2013 No Return (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/23/2013 When The Dream Dies (Rendezvous on a Lost World) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/24/2013 3001: The Final Odyssey (audiobook) by Arthur C. Clarke
    03/25/2013 Bring Back Yesterday by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/26/2013 The Genie by (ss) A. Bertram Chandler
    03/26/2013 All Laced Up by (ss) A. Bertram Chandler
    03/26/2013 Change of Heart (nv) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/26/2013 By Implication (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/29/2013 A Question of Theology (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/29/2013 The Long Way (ss) by A. Bertram Chandler & Susan Chandler
    03/29/2013 The Winds of If (Catch the Star Winds) by A. Bertram Chandler
    03/31/2013 The Hamelin Plague by A. Bertram Chandler

    I continued reading A. Bertram Chandler this month, getting through the rest of his 1957 output, then reading everything from 1958-1964, with the only exceptions being a couple of stories I've never managed to lay hands on, and Chandler's first UK hardcover novel, The Deep Reaches of Space, which (along with its original 1946 magazine incarnation, "Special Knowledge") is next on the agenda.

    Chandler was writing an astonishing number of stories during the period between 1956-1965, placing as many as 4 new stories a month in various SF magazines in the US, UK and Australia -- and, with reprints (because he often sold the same story to magazines in multiple market areas) he saw as many as 6 magazines with his stories in a single month.

    Chandler also started working on longer stories. He was working up to novel length, after experimenting with a couple almost-novels that could easily have been expanded to Ace Double length (30,000-40,000 words.) Titles such as "SOS, Planet Unknown" and "No More Sea" may even have been cut down for magazine publication after failing to find a book publisher. "SOS, Planet Unknown", by the way, has one of the coolest covers ever to appear on an SF magazine. Just awesome.

    Chandler finally began placing novel-length stories in 1961, with When the Dream Dies in Amazing (later an Ace Double as Rendezvous on a Lost World, essentially the same text, with only about a chapter's worth of expansion. The other side of this particular Ace Double was Marion Zimmer Bradley's first book, The Door Through Space.) Amazing also published The Winds of If in 1963 (the 1969 book version was Catch the Star Winds, with only cosmetic changes.) Bring Back Yesterday was Chandler's first book publication (an Ace Double, natch.) The Hamelin Plague, more of a contemporary thriller about mutant rats attempting to take over the world, was published by Monarch (who were also publishing MZB's pseudonymous "lesbian" novels -- titles such as My Sister, My Love and The Strange Women -- around the same time. Someday I need to read these.) If you're interested in what life was like on a merchant ship in the '50's, The Hamelin Plague is probably about as close as you'll ever get.

    It's pretty clear that some of the Chandler stories published in this era were "trunk" stories written much earlier. "The Magic, Magic Carpet" reads like something rejected by Planet Stories in the '40's, as does "The Search for Sally." Don't bother trying to seek these out.

    "To Run the Rim" and "The Outsiders" were later expanded into novels, The Rim of Space and The Ship from Outside, respectively. I've never felt The Ship from Outside had a proper ending, and I was hoping there might be a more conclusive ending to the original version. Alas, no such luck. We still have no idea what happened to Derek Calver and his crew after their experiences in the Outsider ship. (Grimes visits the Outsider ship a few years later, in The Dark Dimensions, but I don't recall that book giving any clue as to Calver's fate.)

    Chandler had an interesting habit of writing multiple stories around the same idea, then selling the disparate versions to competing magazines. Thus, both "Temptress of Eden" and "Familiar Pattern" are, essentially, Prime Directive stories a decade before Star Trek came along. The first deals with human interference on an alien world; the second, with Earth as the primitive planet culturally devastated by extraterrestrials. "Familiar Pattern" is really quite brilliant, and I'm surprised it's never been reprinted.

    Likewise, "The Habit" and "No Return" are tales of the first FTL ship returning to Earth, and Weirdness Ensues. They were published the same month, the first in the US (Amazing) and the second in the UK (New Worlds).

    Started the month's audio with Childhood's End, which is a lot less amazing today than it was in my teens. It's one of those books all SF fans should read, if only to see how far we've come in the last 6 decades. The Light of Other Days wasn't particularly good, but at least it never got truly bad.

    I can't say the same about the "Space Odyssey" quartet. 2001 is pretty darn good, especially compared to what came later; 2010 is OK, 2061 is weak and 3001 is awful. Clarke was never comfortable writing about people, especially sexual people. There is at least one groan-out-loud line in 2010, when Heywood Floyd becomes aroused by the proximity of a woman, and Clarke says Floyd "rose to the occasion." Oh FFS, Arthur, seriously? Clarke also had a hard time keeping the chronology straight in his head, misplacing events from one book to another when referred to later, and also, somehow, interpreting the gap between 2010 and 2061 as 25 years. Ahem. He also seems to have forgotten, between writing 2061 & 3001, that there was a monolith-created copy of Heywood Floyd palling around with Dave Bowman's & HAL's avatars -- no mention of Floyd's avatar in the final volume.

    We also watched Season 2 of Game of Thrones this month, and even got HBO so we could watch Season 3 as it unrolls over the next couple of months.

    Currently listening to Tim Powers's Declare at the gym, and reading Chandler whenever I have time.
     
  18. Bumbles861

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    Yesterday, for Easter, I received "The Weight of Worlds" by Greg Cox and am starting it today.
     
  19. Patrick O'Brien

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    ^Great cover art on that book, looking forward to reading it myself. Currently reading David Mack's Warpath.
     
  20. PKS8304

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    Read James Swallows Stuff of Dreams.
    Book 1 and 2 of Slings and Arrows, now getting ready to read 3.