so Roddenberry could talk Miss India into shaving her hair

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by xvicente, May 26, 2013.

  1. xvicente

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    but he couldnt talk Doohan to shave that moustache?

    That was an obvious and avoidable visual continuity break I think. I'm serious. 10 years of ageing for the actors and all the prduction value added to TMP related to the series, I couldn't recognize Scotty in the movie. I was like, who's that guy?

    In comparision, McCoy had a beard and shaved it for military duty.
     
  2. Admiral Buzzkill

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    There was nothing wrong with the moustache.
     
  3. xvicente

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    If that was Star Trek II where they were acknowledging ageing and etc., and Scotty was a main not supporting character, but in TMP that moustache was a sore thumb.

    They should CGI it away. I'm not kidding.
     
  4. Oso Blanco

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    The moustache never bothered me. People have moustaches in real life, and I doubt that it would be against any military rules whatsoever.
     
  5. Therin of Andor

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    Scotty's moustache was actually mooted for Filmation's TAS, possibly inspired by Doohan because he had grown one after TOS. There are preliminary sketches of Scotty, when he was to lead a group of Academy cadets, where he had a moustache (far right). This was long before TMP.

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    TAS cadets by Therin of Andor, on Flickr

    When TAS came to fruition, it was Mr Kyle who got the moustache (below, far left). He kept it for ST II and even added a goatee.

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    Kyle montage by Therin of Andor, on Flickr
     
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  7. Maurice

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    You may not be kidding, but you're being ridiculous.
     
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  9. Greg Cox

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    Didn't bother me. I mean, people grow mustaches and shave them off sometimes. Rumor has it people even change their hairstyles sometimes--even in the 23rd century.
     
  10. The Old Mixer

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    No problems with Scotty growing a moustache, and his increase in girth between the first two films actually supports the canon timeline's assertion that the films take place over a decade apart....
     
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  11. RoJoHen

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    Sometimes people grow facial hair.
     
  12. Herkimer Jitty

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    Simon Pegg should grow one too.
     
  13. Greg Cox

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    Especially in the Mirror Universe! :)
     
  14. Relayer1

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    I think they're born with it...
     
  15. Maurice

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    An aside: I remain puzzled by the growing use of the term "facial hair" as opposed beard, mustache, whiskers, sideburns, etc. "Facial hair" strikes me as something that originated in cosmetic industry ads aimed at women: "removes unwanted facial hair".
     
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  16. Lance

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    Unfortunately, his further increase in girth between Trek III and Trek IV makes it harder to believe they take place within mere months of each other. :devil:
     
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    He must have eaten a lot of haggis during that time.

    Mirror Spock was born with a beard? :confused:

    Sometimes they even change their toupees.

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  18. T'Girl

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    That probably wasn't his motivation for shaving. Riker, LaForge and even Data were seen with beards.

    Plus, I believe in the year the movie came out military personnel in the US Navy could still wear beards.

    :)
     
  19. RoJoHen

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    I say beard when I mean beard. I say mustache when I mean mustache. "Facial hair" covers all varieties. If you can think of a better term, let me know!
     
  20. Maurice

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    Well, in the past "beard" usually meant the "hair that grows on a man's face often" but not necessarily "excluding the mustache" (Merriam Webster), and whisker meant a hair of the beard, ergo whisker=facial hair. The other terms seem like they were used when you shaved part of the beard away and left some subsection, e.g. sideburns, muttonchops, mustache, circle beard, goatee, what have you, but it was all part of the beard.