So, lets talk "Blade Runner" ....

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Joel_Kirk, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. Tosk

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    I always figured that Leon knew the gig was up when the question came up about his mother. He wouldn't be able to lie convincingly about a parent he never had.

    As you say though, who knows for sure? We've all only got out own takes on it. :)
     
  2. Marsden

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    Oooh, I forgot about the mother. Thanks. :techman:

    I have to get that dvd, it's been too long.
     
  3. Tosk

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    The box set is amazing, highly recommended. Especially the Blu-ray.
     
  4. Set Harth

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    Sounds just like some actual humans I've known...
     
  5. Gov Kodos

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    Obviously what Scott was going for there.
     
  6. Steve Roby

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    My usual two cents on the Deck a rep issue: the guy who wrote the novel said no, the guy who wrote the final version of the screenplay said no, the guy who didn't write any of it but directed it said yes, several years later.

    Do you want a movie with a moral message about how humans dehumanize themselves by losing empathy for other beings, or do you want a cliched Twilight Zone twist ending that doesn't add anything but cheap irony?

    I need to find a download of that BBC version. I need to read the comic version of Androids from a few years back, which I bought but haven't read. Saved for a rainy day.

    As for the Jeter sequels, I think the probability that they will have any influence on any possible future movie is around 0%. They're interesting more than they are enjoyable, and definitely not movie material.
     
  7. JoeZhang

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    It was a joke about a scene in the book.
     
  8. Gov Kodos

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    Is time a factor in this test? It never occurred to me. :alienblush:
     
  9. 2takesfrakes

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    I prefer the version of Blade Runner with Deckard's narration. It makes it so different from anything else Harrison Ford's done, that I'm aware of and it supports that Film Noir style the movie's going for. The ending of the original version was too sappy, though. Ending it with the elevator doors closing on Deckard and Rachel really was the best ...
     
  10. Set Harth

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    Why can't we have both?
     
  11. Steve Roby

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    Schrodinger's replicant: he is and is not a replicant until someone opens the box?
     
  12. Silvercrest

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    Yes. And you've got Scott, Ford, and just about everyone else wrestling over the lid.
     
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  14. Joel_Kirk

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    Oh, I definitely agree.

    It was just this particular time that he - Deckard - thought his punch would knock Leon out so he can better handle him, but it didn't quite work out as he thought it would. So, his reaction was, 'Maybe we can talk about this?':lol:

    I'm seriously thinking about getting this on blu-ray now. The thing is: Ridley Scott has been more hit-and-miss (usually miss) these days, and I don't want to own the blu-ray and come out of the theater (when part 2 is released) and be disappointed; find out that Scott has done another Prometheus-like film with inconsistent characters and plot holes that some will mistake for profound writing.

    Another thought to put out there in regards to the reason for the VK test: Replicants usually have 'those eyes.' This included the owl in Tyrell's complex.

    I was wondering why the eyes weren't an immediate identifier, but then I came to the conclusion that the eyes aren't always visible in that manner. Too, people can always get eye contacts.

    Hence, the reason for the VK test....where certain questions will identify who may or may not be a replicant. Of course, as we saw with Leon and the Tyrell Corp. rep in the beginning, things can get kinda dangerous if you're on the opposite end of a dangerous replicant who doesn't want to be found out.
     
  15. JoeZhang

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    I thought that was purely stylistic/symbolism and not visible within the film - in the same way that non-diegetic music is not heard by characters.
     
  16. Joel_Kirk

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    Hmmmm...:vulcan:
     
  17. Deckerd

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    I think that no matter what Scott produces in the future cannot have any effect on Blade Runner. If you want the Blu Ray, get it. It can't be hurt by any other productions. Let's face it Promethus was stupidtastic((c) Bob the Skutter) but it doesn't affect Alien in any way. Nor do any of the sequels, good and bad.
     
  18. Joel_Kirk

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    True.

    ;)