Smallville#801 "Odyssey" - Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>

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Grade "Odyssey"

  1. SUPER

    10.2%
  2. Above Average

    55.1%
  3. Average

    26.5%
  4. Below Average

    6.1%
  5. BIZARRO

    2.0%
  1. DarthPipes

    DarthPipes Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I agree. It does show a lot of promise. My only concern is the void left by Lex being out of the picture. The jury is still out on Miss Mercer though I'm looking forward to Sam Witner as Doomsday.
     
  2. Procutus

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    Yeah, there is a lot of promise here, and I really hope they can pull it off. I also hope that we got to see Cyborg and Impulse (or Kid Flash, as I call him) later on in the season.

    I'm also still hoping that they can convince Dean Cain to come back one more time as Vandal Savage.

    And they have to keep up with the 'Boyscout' moniker. I get a chuckle every time.
     
  3. Trekker4747

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    Yeah, Lex leaves a pretty darn big void. This woman though could be interesting though. She was over sold to us as being "more [evil] than Lex ever was." So now she's got a lot of promise to live up to. But there's no way she's going to have the pure, raw, natural charisma of Rosenbaum.

    She kind of reminds of Amanda Peet.
     
  4. DarthPipes

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    The jury's still out on Miss Mercer. Saying she's more evil than Lex is pushing it. But I'm willing to see how her character progresses throughout the season. She's certainly nicer to look at than Uncle Fester.
     
  5. Procutus

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    Yeah, I haven't quite made up my mind about Miss Teschmacher either.

    Seriously, if she was this high up in LutherCorp, where was Lex hiding her? She seems a bit like a rabbit out of the hat.
     
  6. MeanJoePhaser

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    Shirley Manson rawks as the new lead villainess.

    Er...I meant the chick with the robot arm....no, wait, wrong show.

    I was hoping for some Red Son thing where Clark lost his memory and becomes a neo-Soviet thug.

    Anyway....

    Martain Manhunter: "The sun stripped me of my powers."

    Clark: "Shouldn't you revert to a green-skinned alien then?"

    MM: "Come on, whitebread, you know they don't have the budget for that."

    Clark: "I saw Lana, my mom and dad...hey, what the hell happened to my mom, anyway?"

    MM: "What did I just say?"
     
  7. John Picard

    John Picard Vice Admiral Admiral

    Average. Everything is forced and rushed. Zero development, which has basically been the Smallville formula for some time. This show will go out on a MEH..........
     
  8. Brent

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    At least until Stargate: Universe
     
  9. benny

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    "Odyssey" bodes well for the season, I think. It feels like the show has grown up, so to speak, even from last year. There's a maturity I felt coming through the actors. Sure, they're playing superheroes and whatnot from a comic book, but this isn't for kids like the first couple of seasons might have been. Almost all the regulars got something of note to do (they couldn't fit Jimmy in the Montana plot somehow?) and we didn't have to listen to Clark pine over Lana.

    And Justin Hartley is in the main cast. Yep, I'm on board...
     
  10. Trekker4747

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    Best development EVER of this new season.
     
  11. CorporalClegg

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    Wow. That was certainly better than I expected. I watched "Arctic" right before since I still hadn't seen it (It was absolutely awful.) But "Odyssey" was a good solid episode. Wasn't anything like the days of old obviously, but it was still better than anything from last season.

    I say though, I started writing a fan-fic over a year ago that was supposed to be a "Superman" era Smallville thing. Basically it wrote it with the assumption Chloe was going to die. It had her agreeing to this project started by Lionel and Swann and finished by Bruce and Ollie.

    It was to borrow from a Fortress Crystal and like a chip from Brainiac's matrix (Brainiac has a chip!) to create a super AI of Chloe's consciousness that was tapped right into Clark's brain. She would be the ultimate ghost in the machine. I always thought the Superman of this era should have a super connection to the information super highway.

    It was called the Cerebral-Holographic Logistical Operations Emulator.

    I sort of took the idea from "Jane" from the Ender books. The thing would be plugged in to Clark's brain and she would appear in his mind's eye as if she were standing in the same room giving him instance access to information all over world.

    I never finished in though. But now I kinda wish I had.
     
  12. benny

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    Bingo! She stuck around three seasons too much, IMHO.
     
  13. CorporalClegg

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    Huh. I doubt even that won't eclipse the last season of B5.

    Smallville S7 was bad, but in the end you still have to put things in perspective.
     
  14. benny

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    ^And I shall forever blame the disaster of S7 on the experiment of Kara and the assorted House of El klaptrap. Kara-El and Kal-El and Lara-El and El Rio Grande...BORING. Didn't help, either, that Laura Vandervoort couldn't act her way out of a paper bag if she wanted to.
     
  15. LaxScrutiny

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    Well, I gave the episode "Below Average". Maybe I'm in a bad mood.

    The whole thing left me feeling flat, and wanting Miller and Gough back. Usually if nothing else, the season premiers and finales are amazing, but this did nothing for me.

    I don't think I can stand watching a season of Tess Mercer, she's not even attractive, not menacing, not fun, just meh. I need more than meh for the main villianess. I didn't necessarily expect her to be as good as Lex, but she's not even a good freak of the week.

    The whole ep just feels like a retcon that wipes away the previous seasons. Now, in some ways that's a good thing, we were all tired of it dragging on. But replacing with what? I just didn't feel any chemistry or energy here, nothing grabbed me, if this is a whole new Smallville, honestly, it wouldn't last one season much less 7. They took out the tired formula, and replaced it with nothing.

    Again, maybe I'm in a bad mood tonight, so I'll see if I like it better when I watch it again (my kids are asleep early so we'll watch it over the weekend.)
     
  16. broberfett

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    Me too.
     
  17. Dorian Thompson

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    Come on over and enjoy Supernatural this season, disgruntled Smallville fans. It reinvented itself tonight. Going into season four they've changed the game and it feels fresh, interesting, and totally disjointed. In other words, we can't wait to see what happens next. Old testament style angels. Mean.
     
  18. nx1701g

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    I'm sorry to say that I didn't get a chance to watch tonight's episode. As some of you know my brother is being redeployed to Iraq tomorrow morning at 0500 so I spent the day with him and family. I plan to watch on Sunday.
     
  19. Speaking of Smallville... this wasn't noteworthy enough for a new thread, but they released a deleted scene from last season's season finale, Arctic. This is the scene where Clark goes to find Lana gone, there was quite a bit more to it originally, pretty interesting twist on the mythos
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSXOoyftgNc&feature=related
     
  20. Samurai8472

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    I have a feeling all tess dialouge will sound like it's coming out of Lex hehe