Sleepy Hollow (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Christopher, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    And, of course, Star Trek takes place in a future where there was no Star Trek TV series revolutionizing mass-media science fiction in the 1960s. I sometimes wonder what the Trek-universe media landscape in the 20th century would've been. Without the precedent of ST's success in syndication, George Lucas might not have been able to convince investors that the space adventure movie he wanted to make in the mid-'70s could turn a profit. And without TNG's success, would the first-run syndicated SF/fantasy boom of the '90s ever have happened?

    Maybe that's why the only 20th-century sci-fi we've ever heard about in the Trek universe is the '40s Captain Proton serials...
     
  2. Mr Light

    Mr Light Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 1999
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Interesting pilot. I'll keep watching.

    I wonder how often the Horseman will appear. Probably only four times a season or so, I'm guessing...
     
  3. JD

    JD Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Location:
    Arizona, USA
    I really enjoyed the pilot. I like the cast, the supernatural mythology is interesting, and it seems like it should have a fair amount of humor, which is something I like.
    I'm curious what kind of a role Katrina will have, because she was listed in the main cast.
    I'm wondering if she's going to just pop up in visions and flashbacks like here, or if they will eventually bring her out of whatever limbo she's in into the modern world. Didn't she make a reference to needing to be rescued?
     
  4. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    ^Clancy Brown was listed in the main cast too, which is why I think he'll have a regular vocal presence at the very least. Then again, some shows these days change their "main cast" credits week to week depending on who's featured or not.
     
  5. Aragorn

    Aragorn Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Do cheese zombies exist in the world of The Walking Dead though? :p

    Brown wasn't in the main cast. He got the "and" credit during the guest star listings.

    Guest star John Cho, Nestor Serrano and Clancy Brown, to be exact.
     
  6. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    I could've sworn Brown was the last name listed in the main cast.
     
  7. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    ^ The series only has 4 main cast members: Tom Mison, Nicole Beharie, Orlando Jones, and Katia Winter.
     
  8. Mister Fandango

    Mister Fandango Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2012
    He was.
     
  9. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    I just double-checked via On Demand, and Aragorn and DigificWriter are correct.

    So I got confused.
     
  10. bigdaddy

    bigdaddy Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Location:
    Space Massachusetts
    The creators have openly for months said that the fairy tale is not know
    N in the TV show. I don't get the problem.
     
  11. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    ^It's not a "problem," it's a topic to discuss and speculate about. This being a discussion board, there would only be a problem if we didn't have a topic to discuss.
     
  12. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    According to an interview with co-creator Philip Iscove, we possibly haven't seen the last of John Cho's character despite what happens to him in the closing moments of the pilot.

     
  13. propita

    propita Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2001
    Location:
    fresno, ca, us
    Am I the only one who jumped when the demon in the mirror broke the mirror? I thought the spliced shots were well done.

    Wasn't fond of the Horseman's use of a gun. I don't know, just damaged that to me. And why didn't Crane grab the Horseman's axe and whack at him with it?
     
  14. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Location:
    West Haven, UT, USA
    Oh, come on. :) That was one of the best parts of the episode and its absurdly awesome premise and concept. As said by Wired,
    The Headless Horseman wielding an assault rifle is freaking brilliant.
     
  15. DWF

    DWF Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 19, 2001
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    No, you have Alan Ladd to thank for Star Wars not Star Trek, he was the only one who believed in Lucas not the script nor the concept.
     
  16. Vendikarr

    Vendikarr Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 17, 2001
    Location:
    Vendikarr
    I like to think the 'show' Galaxy Quest was the inspiration for Lucas and the sci-fi revolution.
     
  17. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Doesn't work. According to the film's backstory, Galaxy Quest ran from 1979-1982. It probably took several years to accumulate enduring popularity in syndication, like Trek did.

    However, according to the GQ Wiki, the show was made using sets and props left over from an earlier space movie as a money-saving move. So one has to wonder what that earlier movie was. I wonder if that's a nod toward the (inaccurate) perception that Battlestar Galactica -- which debuted in 1978 -- was just a copy of Star Wars. Maybe that earlier movie was what took the place of SW in the GQ universe. But then, what inspired that movie?
     
  18. bbailey861

    bbailey861 Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Location:
    Kingston, ON
    The wife and I caught this on the PVR and watched it last night. We were very surprised that Clancy Brown's character got 'whacked' so early on. Both of us are big fans of his so we are hoping Christopher's thoughts above are correct. We were also surprised to see the the Reverend's quick death as well. The pacing appears so quick here. I would not have guessed that they would have uncovered the head of the headless horseman so quickly. We're both looking forward to see how this progresses.
     
  19. bigdaddy

    bigdaddy Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Location:
    Space Massachusetts
    As soon as I say Clancy Brown I knew he'd be dead. Pilots have that way of having an actor you know and killing them off, but he died even sooner than I thought.
     
  20. Serial thread killer

    Serial thread killer Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2003
    Location:
    uk
    Anyone catch the cheesy plug on bones for the show?
     

Share This Page