Sleepy Hollow (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Christopher, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Christopher

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    ^I think Forbin is asking, what part of the Horseman do you look at when there's no face or eyes?

    I suppose I should've seen this revelation coming. In the original Washington Irving story, Abraham Van Brunt, aka "Brom Bones," is Ichabod Crane's rival for the hand of Katrina Van Tassel, and is implied to have faked the apparition of the Headless Horseman in order to scare Crane away. Although they've totally changed things around here, of course.

    And yes, I loved the glass armonica! Why don't we use those anymore?

    As for Andy saving Crane, I don't think it was commendable, since he was just relaying Moloch's orders. Evidently Moloch wants Ichy alive for some reason.
     
  2. Gryffindorian

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    Ohh. That makes sense. I didn't get the part about Moloch, but I do remember Brooks say, "The master forbids it" or something to that end.
     
  3. JanewayRulz!

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    Yeah, when he said "the Master forbids it"... I thought he was making it up. But when the shadow guys came and took them both away I figured... he was right!

    Speaking of the bad guys, they didn't have any trouble showing up at the end... why did they keep failing when Brooks first called them? Did the Master "forbid" his minions from rescuing the horseman too soon, so Morloch could figure out what was going on with his "head" minion?
     
  4. Mr Light

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    The second they showed the Horseman being personally mad at Crane then cutting to his best friend I knew he was gonna be the Horseman :lol:
     
  5. propita

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    Why does the Horseman turn as if looking around or listening? Does he need light to "see" by?
     
  6. Mr Light

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    Phantom Head Syndrome :lol:
     
  7. Timelord Victorious

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    Maybe even literally!
     
  8. JD

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    That was after Andy broke the hex protecting the hideout. When he pulled the thing out he used to summon I believe he also broke the hex.
    As for the episode, I enjoyed it. Before this episode started I didn't expect such a personal connection between Ichabod and Death. As the episode went on, I did start to wonder if he was going to be Abraham. I like the team the seem to have truly set in place this episode. I wonder why Moloch is so concerned with Ichabod? I'm assuming it must have something to do with his role as a Witness.
     
  9. Gryffindorian

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    Good episode tonight. We learned two things: Ichabod and Katrina had a son, and Grace Dixon, Mr. Lachlan's house matron who helped deliver Katrina's baby, was the ancestor of Abbie Mills.

    The tree monster reminded me of Swamp Thing and wasn't really much of a threat to Ichabod and Abbie.

    Walter returns in a couple of weeks. :)
     
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    It was an evil midget ent.
     
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    More treasure from the Amazon.:lol:
     
  12. JanewayRulz!

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    Crane: I can't fathom how such beauty (The Manor)could fall into such ruin.

    Abbie: Or why anybody who dated George Clooney would want to buy it.

    Crane: An Irishman?
     
  13. Kelthaz

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    I was thinking of Trevis from Voyager.
     
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    mini-Grindl...

    Could've done without the chief's daughter and ex-wife sideline, since it seemed pointless... Focus needs to be square on the leads and their respective timeframes, I think. The chief is okay but as a distant supporting character.
     
  16. Tom Hendricks

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    Why I like Captain Irving more then Elementary's Captain Gregson. In Sleepy Hallow, Irving was an unbeliever until he witnessed with his own eyes the headless horse man. He's now fully on the team, a facilitator and go between now. Captain Gregson on Elementary continues to dismiss Sherlocks initial findings, even after two years of them almost always being correct. You would think after almost two years, when Holmes says something like "She committed suicide" he would stop and go, I believe you lets focus all our attention on that. No we get the dumb cop Gregson, "how did he become Captain?" It looks like a suicide so thats the only thing I will consider. Even with his speech at the end of the last episode, I don't buy it. He will still only consider what his narrow cop mentality allows him to.
     
  17. Christopher

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    ^That's a very strange reading of Gregson. If he had so little faith in Holmes, he wouldn't keep bringing him in at all. He questions Holmes's initial interpretations because it's his job to question, to insist on hard evidence that can be used to make a solid arrest and prosecution. He'd really be an inept cop if he arrested people based on Holmes's word alone. I'm sure most police captains treat their detectives the same way: pushing them, challenging them, making sure they're aware of the gaps in their theories and of the need to put an airtight case together, one that's more than just conjecture and can stand up in court.
     
  18. Borgminister

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    And actually that's flat-out wrong at least judging by the last Elementary, where Gregson praised Holmes and said if you don't like it, leave to his crew. So he's evolved nicely.
     
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    I agree. It felt like an excuse for a refresher on how very few people know what is really going on. "Can't tell the ex because no one will believe me". But we already had had that the other week when another cop asked out Abby.
     
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    I liked getting learn a little more about Irving. Sure it didn't have much to do with the main arc, but I thought it was nice to get to learn a bit more about him.
    Overall, I thought it was a pretty good episode. Nothing mind blowing, but we did get some interesting new developments, like Ichabod's son, and I thought some of the stuff with the house was pretty cool.