Skyfall - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Agent Richard07, Oct 23, 2012.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    25.6%
  2. A

    27.3%
  3. A-

    16.5%
  4. B+

    8.5%
  5. B

    4.5%
  6. B-

    6.3%
  7. C+

    2.3%
  8. C

    2.3%
  9. C-

    4.0%
  10. D+

    1.1%
  11. D

    0.6%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. F

    1.1%
  1. trevanian

    trevanian Rear Admiral

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    No, it's just idiot plotting, arbitrary as hell. The people put at risk if they'd had SAS tucked away in Scotland wouldn't be innocent civilians, they'd be professionals and 'risk is our business' isn't it? Going the HIGH NOON route puts SKYFALL squarely in the OUTLAND territory of retreading a classic but doing so out of context, which invalidates the whole thing (but at least OUTLAND had Sean Connery!)

    Bond (if you even consider this character in the 21st century films to even be Bond) has failed in two out of three movies -- oddly enough, the ones that most people, not me, fawn all over. Quantum got away with the money in CR, and he failed to save M -- thank God! -- in this one.

    Even the 'old school' bare bones notion of action doesn't hold water, because they're still using a gadgeted-up Aston Martin (trotted in from another continuum!) and using it badly, since it should have been parked FACING the badguys, which would have taken them out before they got close.

    So arbitrary it is like Lucas wrote it.
     
  2. stj

    stj Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    There's bizarre sexual innuendo in my post?:wtf:

    Very creative of me!:techman:
     
  3. Starkers

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    What a great idea, point the car with the fixed guns away from the house! That’ll do some good against Silva’s goons stretched out in a big long skirmish line, much cleverer than facing those fixed guns towards the front door that most of the goons were going to have to congregate in front of in a big, easy to hit bundle…
     
  4. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    Kind of, but for some reason I was sure it was in QoS. I really should watch these movies more often.
     
  5. ATimson

    ATimson Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    In QoS he actually breaks into her house, I believe.
     
  6. Starkers

    Starkers Admiral Admiral

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    No that's Casino Royale as well :)
     
  7. Ghost Bones

    Ghost Bones Captain Captain

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    Yeah, especially the washing up! Eheh lads, am I right? :lol:
     
  8. Ian Keldon

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    I wasn't aware that you get shirty when someone points out the absurdity of your opinion.

    Good to know. Thanks.
     
  9. inflatabledalek

    inflatabledalek Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    M's husband puts a call through for her whilst she's ruining a bath in QoS as well.

    Well, that's the assumption anyway. Mr. M might have died years before CR and she's now just a casual sex maniac.

    Agreed with the notion that M goes along with Bond's plan not because it's the sensible thing to do, but because sorting out her own shit is the right thing to do. I had problems with a lot of the film's plotting (including that everyone who went along with it keeping their jobs) but that choice made sense for both her and Bond.

    Q probably should have been also sacked for plugging a computer genius' drive into his mainframe without expecting bad stuff to happen.
     
  10. Joel_Kirk

    Joel_Kirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I just saw "Skyfall" a few days back, and I thought it was an awesome picture. I look to go again once I have the time....(and maybe see it in IMAX).

    Daniel Craig is my favorite Bond...
     
  11. T'Baio

    T'Baio Admiral Admiral

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    What's "shirty" mean?
     
  12. trevanian

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    They have to come past, you can start the car and pivot, you're also getting them BEFORE they get near the place, thinning the numbers that much more, AND you can drive away as they go for cover, assuming you don't get them all, but ... y'know what? this is like the old days trying to talk sense to ENTERPRISE fans. If you can't see that every bit of 'strategy' in this is horseshit, then revel in your POV.
     
  13. Brikar99

    Brikar99 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    And losing every element of surprise that Bond desperately needs to overcome a larger, more heavily armed force. Driving the car around a field in Scotland trying to run down mercenaries is absurdly stupid... dare I say, "horseshit."
     
  14. Starkers

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    Yeah, the DB5's guns are great for what they're designed to do, i.e. engage other vehicles in combat or hit a static target, against a bunch of men they're useless unless you can bunch those men up to make a big target. The notion that you could start the car up and "pivot" is daft, it's not some kind of hover car, it's a 1960's sports car, which just adds to the ludicrousness of the idea of haring around the countryside trying to take out a bunch of armed men.

    The car won’t move great over that ground, it's not a 4x4, it's used to roads not uneven/icy ground, in fact it might not move at all, and even if it does it’s going to move slowly, so what you have is a slow moving big target, vs. lots of more manoeuvrable smaller targets with automatic weapons.
     
  15. lurok

    lurok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Maybe they're getting it mixed up with the Batman Returns batmobile? :)
     
  16. Starkers

    Starkers Admiral Admiral

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    Now if 007 had had that it'd have been worth taking the fight to the bad guys!
     
  17. ainmneacha_Nollag

    ainmneacha_Nollag Living the Irish dream. Admiral

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    Arn't you the same chap who created a thread a while back comparing the fictional Empire from Star Wars with the not at all fictional Third Reich and thus anyone who likes said Empire being a sympathiser with said non-fictional regime?

    Pot, Kettle, Black anyone?
     
  18. Gaith

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    ^ Perhaps we can all agree that, while opinions may vary on the wisdom of the car placement, Q was mind-bogglingly irresponsible by not isolating his computer before accessing Silva's?

    ... And I'm still wondering how he got out of his cell, seeing as he was being watched by two armed guards at a safe distance. Maybe his virus deactivated the guards' nervous systems? :confused:

    And M should never have let anyone on 00 duty who couldn't reliably hit a stationary target at his leisure in a shooting-range setting.

    And now I find myself wishing that it was. Given his promiscuity, Bond vs. sex-trade criminals could be a genuinely interesting concept. But his sexing up the girl did strike me as pretty ick also, given the context. And the plot we did get I just didn't find at all compelling.

    I wanted and expected to like the movie, but lame drama Q's stupidity and the flashlight drove me up the wall. I give this a C-, worse than QoS's C+ for the weakest Craig entry yet. Skyfail, indeed.
     
  19. Starkers

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    Oh no question :)
     
  20. lurok

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    Perhaps they can remake Enter The Dragon for the next one?