Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

Discussion in 'Deep Space Nine' started by apenpaap, Jan 21, 2011.

?

You must choose!

  1. Skrain Dukat

    62.0%
  2. Elmo Dukat

    16.9%
  3. just Gul Dukat

    21.1%
  1. apenpaap

    apenpaap Commodore Commodore

    In the Relaunch novels, Dukat's first name is Skrain. But, according to Memory Alpha Ronald D. Moore frequently said Dukat's first name was Elmo when someone asked him about it. Leaving aside the fact that he was obviously joking, which name do you prefer? Skrain Dukat, Elmo Dukat, or will he always just be Gul Dukat to you?
     
  2. Gul Re'jal

    Gul Re'jal Commodore Commodore

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    For my Polish ears "Skrain" sounds like finger nails on a blackboard :shivers:
     
  3. Avon

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    I like to think his first name is Gul. like Darth Vader's was Darth, before it was badly retconned to be the title of every bad guy with a lightsaber.
     
  4. indolover

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    Elmo sounds goofy, like a childrens' cartoon character. Skrain sounds more alien and more Cardassian.
     
  5. Photon

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    Skrain sounds like something you do when you need a stout glass of prune juice
     
  6. MHT1138

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    I thought it was in an episode of DS9 that his first name was Skrain. I don't know which one though.
     
  7. Nerys Ghemor

    Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Admiral

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    All the show ever gave us was one episode where he gave his name--or name and title--it's not clear--as "Dukat, S.G." This could have been "Station Gul," but it's not clear.

    "Skrain" comes from the Pocket Books novels.

    At first I admit I was not the biggest fan of that name, but I've now spent a few years writing for an alternate "good-guy" version of him, and just the different feelings associated with that character have changed the way I hear the name. When I write the "good twin," I don't hear the harshness of the name so much...I hear the rhyme with "rain." But when I write about Gul Dukat, it seems like a harsh, mean name to go with a cruel man.
     
  8. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Actually the term 'Gul' was first used - as a Cardassian rank - on TNG, well before Dukat ever existed as a character. "The Wounded", I believe it was. Although it did feature Marc Alaimo, as a different Gul (Macet, who in the novels is Dukat's cousin).
     
  9. Herkimer Jitty

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  10. Pemmer Harge

    Pemmer Harge Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Gul Dukat - that's as much of a name as he'll ever have!
     
  11. Jack Bauer

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    Elmo's just too silly. Skrain isn't that great but I'll take it over Elmo any day.
     
  12. Photon

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    You gotta wonder if Macet actually got to meet Wes Crusher. That would be a case of Boy Meets Gul
     
  13. TerokNor

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    I don´t like the name Skrain much from its sound, but somehow it fits Dukat. Elmo just sounds... stupid...reminds me of some furry sesam street doll or so.
    Gul Dukat of course sounds most familiar, but as Gul is a rang and not a name....
    I would vote for both...Gul Dukat and Skrain Dukat, depending if he is on duty or not.
    But as you asked for a name I think I put in my vote for Skrain then.

    TerokNor
     
  14. PKTrekGirl

    PKTrekGirl Arrogant Niner Thug Admiral

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    ^ This.

    I agree.
     
  15. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I gotta stick with Elmo, though my actual preference is for Cosmo.
     
  16. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    I'd never thought to play it through my mind like that before. Yes, it does have a very different feel when read in that way. When reading "Skrain" I tend to draw out the "fingernails on a blackboard" bit, as Gul Re'jal put it. I guess I unconsciously make the sound "appropriate" to the man. From now on, I'll definitely read AU Skrain the way I read rain. More emphasis on the "ain", less on the "Skr" :)
     
  17. DevilEyes

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    Yeah. And then there was Gul Madred and Gul Lemec. That would have to be one very popular first name on Cardassia... Also, when do officers get called by their first name?! That would be like everyone calling Picard "Jean-Luc", rather than just Beverly, or everyone calling Sisko "Ben". Or aliens concluding that "Captain" must be a very popular name on Earth.
     
  18. Avon

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    why didn't they call each other by their first names? everyone knew who was in charge anyways and it seems less militaristic.
     
  19. Nerys Ghemor

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    HA! There was a character in one of Gul Re'jal's stories that made a joke about exactly that. :lol:
     
  20. Gul Re'jal

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    I completely forgot about that :lol: But in that case the popular name was "Lieutenant" :guffaw: