Should Neelix/Kes have stayed together?

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  1. exodus

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    What gave you the impression the Borg Queen was an authority on time travel?
    Just asking.
     
  2. R. Star

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    She implied she was on the Cube Locutus was using to attack Earth, then escaped using time travel. Plus the Collective apparently has the ability to open time portals on a whim as demonstrated in First Contact.
     
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    After you've assimilated a million or so individuals you probably think you are an expert on everything.
     
  4. R. Star

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    Seven of Nine certainly did.
     
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    Exactly.

    Heck, if I had assimilated a million folk I would hardly be humble about it. Gives "been there, done that" a whole new meaning.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    And what about the magic door they left in Earth orbit that temporally shielded ships, and could allow protagonists to chase the Borg into the past and route them before they even got a foot hold on their target?

    Once you realize that the Queen could have time travelled back in Borg space where it was safe, the only feasible reason that she went all the way to Earth first was so that she could pick up her boyfriend first.
     
  7. R. Star

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    Maybe she knew the future Temporal Starfleet would be expecting that and never would think she'd time travel in the middle of a huge battle with witnesses and uh... yeah? Right..? :p
     
  8. exodus

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    That's an interesting way to look at it.
    I took it to mean that she's more than just a physical representation but rather she exists as pure conscious thought within the collective itself. So even if her body dies, a little bit of her is within ever Drone. So it still keeps to the idea, the Borg are one. They are her and she is them. Thus: "I am the Borg."
    Like she's more of a computer program than an actual physical being and she just downloads into a new body upon each "death".
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    She could have been there physically.

    Refugees/assimilated Starfleet crew from Wolf 359 made it all the way to the Delta Quadrant and had group-sex with Chakotay.
     
  10. exodus

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    Yeah, could have been sent back on a sphere.


    She was there physically, doesn't mean her mind was.
     
  11. R. Star

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    Well the three dimensional terms comment was a take on "you think so two dimensionally."

    The forth dimension in many sci-fi settings is time after all.
     
  12. exodus

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    Is it?
    I wasn't aware of that.
    Can you explain it further?
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    Back to the future has us believe that thinking fourth dimensionally is about anticipating how the future will impact on your current planning, that unbuilt bridges will be built by the time you timetravel over them, or it's like how Fry in Futurama was taught that time with Space Invaders that you shoot where the space invaders are going to be, and not where they're at already right now.

    Then if you think back to Wrath of Khan, they took him out easy because he was only thinking two dimensionally
     
  14. Guy Gardener

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    Dimension uno = length.

    Dimension two = width.

    Dimension 3 = height.

    Dimension IV = Time

    Dimension 6 = The ability to recognize a sarcastic question.