Ship sizes: ALL LIES! (big pics)

Discussion in 'Trek Tech' started by King Daniel Beyond, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

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    Erm, the Enterprise-D did change size shot to shot and episode to episode. Ten Forward is twice as big inside as it should be, and the entire ship changes shape between shots, with three differently-proportioned models used, one of which had a far thicker saucer rim (in an attempt to fix the Ten Forward problem, but which fails because of the constant model switching) than the other two.
     
  2. JJohnson

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    Sorry about reviving an old thread guys.

    Your point is made due to the use of lots of stock footage, something I was wishing the TNG Remastered would fix, and TOS Remastered did fix when it used a CG Enterprise to replace the pilot footage that crept in. I get the difference between Probert's ship and the 4-foot model, which was obviously thicker and had raised paneling to make it stand out on an SD medium. In such a case, they should use CGI to make one consistent appearance for the ship and replace any non-conforming shots fall in line at the minimum.

    In relation to the alternate reality, several have pointed out that its scale appeared to change within the movie itself depending on the shot. Being fully cg, this movie could've rendered everything in a consistent size.
     
  3. King Daniel Beyond

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    Eh, I don't think it matters enough to replace a ton of shots. And if you did, you'd have a section of people furious that the original had been tampered with.

    Of some relevance to this discussion, is something I ran across about the Statue of Liberty's depiction in movies. It looks huge, far bigger than it really is - and as a result it's usually upscaled in movies. Cloverfield actually kept it's scale accurate in the first trailers but after complaints that it looked too small, they scaled it to 150% of actual size for the finished film. Escape From New York (same link) scaled it up by an insane 500%, so the broken head could block a street. What looks best will always triumph. The new Enterprise is the size it's designers say it is and detailed it at - that's 725m, even though it was shrunk down to fit over the shipyard location and even through the Mayflower's saucer is double size for an "OMG they're gonna crash!" heart-stopping moment. It's dramatic licence, which has been a key part of TV and movies since their inception.