SG-U – The Greater Good - (2x07) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

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Grade The Greater Good

  1. 10 Chevrons – Out of this Universe

    25 vote(s)
    42.4%
  2. 9 Chevrons – Beyond the known Galaxies

    18 vote(s)
    30.5%
  3. 8 Chevrons – In the Milky Way Galaxy

    12 vote(s)
    20.3%
  4. 7 Chevrons – Within our Solar System

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  5. 6 Chevrons – Can’t get past Earth (Average)

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  6. 5 Chevrons – No flying machines at all

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  7. 4 Chevrons – Pre-Industrial

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3 Chevrons – Dark Ages

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. 2 Chevrons – Throwing rocks and stones here

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1 Chevron – Cannot Establish Lock

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. kdalton_69

    kdalton_69 Commander Red Shirt

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    I'm willing to bet T-Bag's guard is dead and he escaped to stop Ginn from telling anything about LA plans.

    That being said, if Ginn is truly dead ...
     
  2. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    8. This one was really pretty good! It focused more on the adventure of their situation and less on the characters. That worked out pretty well. They way they handled the LA guy running into Guinn was pretty clumsy. It was as if he had no escort. It was weird.

    It's nice to know what the general mission of Destiny is. They should focus on that. Instead, it looks like next week we get a tale of revenge. Kind of pedestrian compared to Destiny's grand mission but we'll see.

    It's too bad Guinn is killed, or at least her body. It was rather nice! This seems aimed at amping up the emo aspects, which is not what I want. So, I'm leary about that development.

    Give me more like this week, please!

    Mr Awe
     
  3. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I totally agree with this. This series has too much filler. This was the logical end to season 1. If this were the first season finale, we'd all have been pumped up for season 2.

    As it actually played out, I was not interested in the LA takeover bid and didn't really cared who lived or died. The resolution was OK but didn't take us anywhere.

    Destiny's mission is where it is at!

    Mr Awe
     
  4. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Why would they be way higher? The people who have stopped watching won't have any clue that this episode was great so that they could make a point to watch it. Shoot, the people who do watch don't even know that.

    The ratings eroded over time as people slowly got burned out on the series. There will be no quick rebound. If the series actually improves, consistently improves not just occassionally, it will take awhile for the word of mouth to get out and for people to change their habits. It'll be a slow process.

    This was just one good (maybe great) episode. We still have yet to see if they can sustain this level week in, week out. So, we're just at the very first step of that process.

    Mr Awe
     
  5. NKemp3

    NKemp3 Commodore Commodore

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    Yes, it was. You want to act like a six year old, well, I can too. We obviously disagree and that's fine. But to act as if your opinion is the final law is juvenile. So...my OPINION stands. I found Air part three to be awesome and thought the excess Rush stuff got stale
     
  6. Kirby

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    I finally caught up and I really liked Trial and Error and love this ep! Finally the show is getting good. I just hope it's not too late.
     
  7. AJBryant

    AJBryant Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Did anyone else think one of the best lines was Eli's?

    "You know, sometimes, with the stones, it's easy to forget you're in another person's body."

    SLAM!
     
  8. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    You know, this epsiode was actually somewhat decent. The plot itself was kind of generic, not much really happened, and I'm still a bit confused about what Destiny's mission actually is. But the episode is had some fun moments, like Wray finding Eli's t-shirt in Ginn's room, and Brody, Volker, and Eli discovering the bridge. Hell, even Robert Knepper had a line that made me smile ("this room's bigger than mine.")

    I guess now that everyone else has found the bridge they can move out of that tiny and cramped control room and establish the bridge as their proper command post. Be all proper sci-fi like with Young in the command chair and everyone else at the various stations. It might actually be cool.

    Once again, despite the aforementioned line, Robert Knepper is essentially wasted. One has to wonder why such a big deal was made out of casting him since he's done shit all in the episodes he's been in. It looks like next week he might finally be doing something, but so far he's been on the sidelines and practically non-existent.

    Eli snapping at Dr. Perry about proper behaviour with the stones seemed unnecessarily harsh. While he might not enjoy the sight of his girlfriend making out with Rush, everyone else who uses the stones has sex with their lovers and indeed on one of the Kino webisodes we learn that the people on Earth who volunteer for stone swap sign forms agreeing to let their bodies be used in a sexual manner. So Eli has no right getting after Dr. Perry for doing what everyone else is allowed to do.
     
  9. PsychoPere

    PsychoPere Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ^ In fact, during a season one episode (the title of which I cannot currently recall), he seemed quite keen on having a similar good time with some girl at a bar while he and Chloe were both on Earth (or with Chloe, for that matter)... while in the body of some other person. Definite hypocrite moment, though I suppose hypocrisy is at least credible characterization.
     
  10. Yoda

    Yoda Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The sex waiver stuff is so mind bogglingly stupid that they may as well just recton the whole bit. Eli and everyone decent is against even a little tongueless smoochy smoochy in swappy land. Ya know... because that makes sense. And Young didn't bang his wife while inside Lou Diamond Philips', i.e. his nemesis' body! Ya know, because that would be really stupid.

    I'm not particularly excited about Destiny's mission. Maybe it's because at the start of the series the Ancients were all mysterious, and kind of interesting... and then that one episode they had LelooDallasMultipass ancient woman show up in the arctic or whatever and they rapidly devolved into a horribly cheesy and cliched sci-fi race. Stargate hasn't done mystery and intrigue well since pretty early in SG-1's run.

    It better be one hell of a message embedded into the universe, but I'm not optimistic.

    For some reason this is how I envision the final scene of the series:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXGC896Jdw[/yt]
     
  11. bullethead

    bullethead Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Well, the beauty of that sex waiver thing is that it happened in one of those webisodes no one saw, so unless it's actually played in an episode, it never happened.
     
  12. Tek

    Tek Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Sex waver?
     
  13. PsychoPere

    PsychoPere Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ^ The "sex waiver" is discussed in one of the Kino webisodes, specifically #23: We Volunteer To Do This. Remember the Kino footage of Riley talking about "not being there" in the episode in which he died? That was originally webisode #30.
     
  14. SG-17

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    Doesn't matter if it wasn't in the show. Stargate's canon isn't even a fraction as strict as Star Trek. All produced content, whether it be on television, in theaters, on DVD, or online is canon. A large portion of the books and games are too.
     
  15. bullethead

    bullethead Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Show me an official statement of that from MGM and I'll believe you.
     
  16. David cgc

    David cgc Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, the fact that they've used footage from the Kinosodes in the show proper (like Riley's funeral) is a pretty good indication that the people making the show count them. As is the fact that they're made by the people doing the show, written by the writers, acted by the actors, shot on the sets...
     
  17. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    Obviously, the episodes and movies are canon. The Kino webisodes are likely canon as well, for reasons stated above. But I don't think any of the books or games are canon in anyway.

    First, the novels which were written as direct sequels of the original movie obviously have to be disregarded as non-canon. I've never heard any indication Fandemonium's SG-1 and Atlantis novels are meant to be canon, and since most of the Stargate games that were in devlopment have been cancelled anyway, there's nothing to discuss. Though I suppose you might have a point regarding the X-Box SG-1 game that was in development several years ago, since footage from that was used in the episode Avatar.
     
  18. Lindley

    Lindley Moderator with a Soul Moderator

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    By definition, every point in the universe could be described as "the initial point of the big bang". There's no need to go anywhere to get there.
     
  19. AJBryant

    AJBryant Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    How does that work for the physics of "constantly expanding"? There must be a central point of expansion FROM.
     
  20. Robert Maxwell

    Robert Maxwell Comfortably Numb Premium Member

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    The universe is expanding in all directions. There is no "center" from which we are expanding. It's why you find the background radiation left over from the Big Bang everywhere.
     

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