SG-A – Vegas (5x19) – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS!)

Discussion in 'Stargate' started by Brent, Jan 3, 2009.

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Grade VEGAS

  1. 3 ZPMs

    30 vote(s)
    37.0%
  2. Good

    26 vote(s)
    32.1%
  3. Average

    9 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. Bad

    10 vote(s)
    12.3%
  5. Poor

    3 vote(s)
    3.7%
  6. Gate Malfunction - Utter Annihilation

    3 vote(s)
    3.7%
  1. SalvorHardin

    SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well, I couldn't care less if the MU or "real" universe Shepard was gay.
    It is no big deal either way to me, even though it seems to be a big deal for a lot of people.

    I just think that it is worth pointing out the facts.
    And the facts point out that the MU Shep was not gay as far as we can tell by the female medic incident.
     
  2. Etched

    Etched Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Precisely the same for me, it doesn't bother me either way, in fact it would have been interesting if they had made this Sheppard gay (though I suspect had they done it they would never have been so subtle) but at the end of the day he wasn't, that's not me getting uptight its just me pointing out what was said in the episode.
     
  3. BCI

    BCI Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The writers took a good idea and ran with it and went beyond the formula. 95 of 100.
     
  4. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, you'd have to be familiar with TV and movies from the 1950s and earlier to know what I was referring to, though. But looks like alt-Shep wasn't gay after all, so the point is moot. (Struck me as hamhanded anyway, so it's all for the best.)
    I have this funny feeling you're not familiar with what I was referring to, making your contribution to this discussion also moot.

    A more relevant point: Shep in our universe was depicted as being the type to have gone back and rescued a colleague, and not necessarily a romantic partner either. So why make the medic a romantic partner? Wouldn't he have taken a risk to rescue anyone? And doesn't that imply there is no actual difference between the tragic story of alt-Shep and our Shep's happier story, other than the random whim of writers?
     
  5. DWF

    DWF Admiral Admiral

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    It might help your cause if payed alittle more attention to the writers on the show, this one was written by the series co-creator Robert C Cooper this wasn't done on a whim it was done to show what Shep. might've been if had been court martialed and dismissed from the Ari Force. Twelve people died because he disobeyed orders, that pretty much meant he would die by the end of the ep.

    Not some misheard word that you mistakeningly applied to some gay stereotype storytelling. There was no gay subtext, it was all straight forward so to speak.
     
  6. Kpnuts

    Kpnuts Commodore Commodore

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    As an aside, would you have had a problem if:

    a) Rodney had said "he"
    b) Sheppard in SGA were gay all along (ignoring the antiquated military rules)

    Just curious
     
  7. DWF

    DWF Admiral Admiral

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    As with the others I could care less if he was gay, that's not the point.
     
  8. biotech

    biotech Vice Admiral Admiral

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    If real Shep was gay it would make the exchange at the end of the episode when Rodney and Shep were both in Sheps dream have a double meaning.

    Rodney "So this is your dream"
    Shep "Yeah"
    Rodney "I really thought there would be more hot girls"
    Shep indigently "Yeah!"
     
  9. hxclespaulplayer

    hxclespaulplayer Commander Red Shirt

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    I give 3 zpms even though I have never seen CSI, I liked the change, a character died and STAYED dead, and liked the scene with Rod.
     
  10. DWF

    DWF Admiral Admiral

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    I'd say I called it right.

    http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com...moker-robert-c-cooper-answers-your-questions/

     
  11. Etched

    Etched Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    ^Rob Cooper's Q&A about this ep on JM's blog was pretty good, lots of insight in to the filming etc, well worth a read to anyone interested.
     
  12. TheMasterOfOrion

    TheMasterOfOrion Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    great episode, one of the best! :techman: